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Re:What Happened to EVs? by insane_dreamer on Thursday January 04, 2024 @01:13PM (#38870307)
Article is spot on about the problems, but as much as I'm a huge fan of European style mass transit, we really need to let go of the idea of "push more public transportation" as some sort of solution in the U.S. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. The US as a country has for the past 100 years been built around cars, both in cities and rural areas, and it would probably take another 100 years to change that if there was even the willpower to do so (which there is not). So whatever solutions we implement need to just accept that fact; it's fanciful and counter-productive otherwise.
Re:What Happened to EVs? by iamthirsty on Thursday January 04, 2024 @01:16PM (#38870356)
> IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN

It could happen, it would just require such a massive shift in current attitudes and regulation that it's not very likely.

> So whatever solutions we implement need to just accept that fact; it's fanciful and counter-productive otherwise.

Discussion is almost never counter-productive. I would highly advise against trying to reduce the amount of discussion (in general and on this issue.)

It's not a fact that it won't happen because it is technically possible, and there is a large portion of people pushing for it, and it's expanding in cities like Miami (where I live), Florida in general, Texas, etc.

Ironically, with enough discussion anything is possible, including a massive shift to public transport in the U.S.

Re:What Happened to EVs? by Althuns on Thursday January 04, 2024 @01:22PM (#38870425)
These things don't have to be one or the other. There are places where it's very important that we transition towards less car-focused infrastructure and there are others where we will invest more in that infrastructure. Contrary to many contrarian beliefs, European style mass transit doesn't include the complete removal of cars.
Re:What Happened to EVs? by s0rce on Thursday January 04, 2024 @01:15PM (#38870329)
Didn't major European cities manage to pivot away from some pretty major car centric design effectively...
Re:What Happened to EVs? by insane_dreamer on Friday January 05, 2024 @11:55AM (#38881292)
European cities were always high-density as they've been around much longer than US ones many of which developed for the most part after the arrival of the car.

But the problem in the US is the geographical distances are enormous compared to European countries, and the lack of a dense train network.