Re:Claudine Gay resigns as Harvard University president
by tptacek on Thursday January 04, 2024 @12:28PM
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No, for all the reasons stated upthread.
Re:Claudine Gay resigns as Harvard University president
by nailer on Thursday January 04, 2024 @03:15PM
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I don't see any reasons from you or the other commenter upthread. One person may have alleged it was collective punishment but that's already been dismissed.
Re:Claudine Gay resigns as Harvard University president
by tptacek on Thursday January 04, 2024 @03:48PM
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I have nothing to do with "the other commenter upthread" and am disinclined to respond to anything framed that way.
Re:Claudine Gay resigns as Harvard University president
by nailer on Friday January 05, 2024 @09:48AM
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Okay: I haven’t seen anything from you explaining why Israel needs to provide Gaza with free utilities
Re:Claudine Gay resigns as Harvard University president
by Thiez on Friday January 05, 2024 @10:47AM
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Even though they didn't have a physical presence, they were in control of the territory, controlling all borders, the sea, and the air. Israel is widely considered to be an occupying force due to this control.
Regardless of whether you agree or disagree that Israel is occupying Gaza, would you at least agree that an occupier in general has a responsibility to provide basic necessities like water to the occupied?
Re:Claudine Gay resigns as Harvard University president
by nailer on Friday January 05, 2024 @12:22PM
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> controlling all borders
No. Egypt lets Israel run the border, but if Egypt wanted to open the border to Israel it would.
> would you at least agree that an occupier in general has a responsibility to provide basic necessities like water to the occupied?
But it's not relevant, since there's no occupier.
The government of Gaza has the responsibility to provide basic necessities to Gaza. Instead they spent it on tunnels and weapons.
That is true, but the majority of Gazans polled support the actions of Oct 7, and back in 2021 most supported Hamas in another polls.
I do appreciate these polls may be answered under duress though and from what I see on video, there are definitely some people inside Gaza that are tired of living under Hamas. We just don't know how many.
> you're doing your side no favors here by pretending that Israel can cut Gaza off at its own discretion. It cannot.
I don't have a side asides from that of truth. I don't understand what the basis for this argument is - why can't Israel stop supplying utilities to Gaza? Israel probably will post-Hamas, since the UAE or whoever else would like them to do so, but ultimately it's at Israel's discretion.