Re:Cross-platform Rust rewrite of the GNU coreutils
by elzbardico on Wednesday January 03, 2024 @12:34PM
(#38856894)
Most of those really old devices are usually air-gaped from the internet for incidental reasons. Either they run on closed networks or have no networking at all.
You're not going to find a 30 years old machine that controls the pumps of nuclear reactor on the internet.
Re:Cross-platform Rust rewrite of the GNU coreutils
by spoiler on Wednesday January 03, 2024 @12:48PM
(#38857102)
But if these machines are so isolated, and given they've been running with the "if it ain't broken" mindset: why, and more importantly how do they even get updated? If they aren't being updated, why discuss constraints on updating them?
Re:Cross-platform Rust rewrite of the GNU coreutils
by elzbardico on Wednesday January 03, 2024 @01:01PM
(#38857299)
I bet they don't get updated, ever.
Re:Cross-platform Rust rewrite of the GNU coreutils
by mschuster91 on Wednesday January 03, 2024 @03:07PM
(#38859121)
> You're not going to find a 30 years old machine that controls the pumps of nuclear reactor on the internet.
Stuxnet would like to have a word with you. Airgap isn't enough to prevent malware from spreading.
Re:Cross-platform Rust rewrite of the GNU coreutils
by lbhdc on Wednesday January 03, 2024 @12:24PM
(#38856739)
On the otherhand, I think you could argue that it is something to strive for in more systems.
The longer our devices can last the less ewaste we generate. It may not be the easiest to secure, but it isn't impossible.
That attitude has got to die in an age of everything being exploited by bad actors. Anything that has any form of networking should have regular replacement at least of the control plane components budgeted in from the start.