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Re:Double encryption: Analyzing the NSA/GCHQ arguments again... by Eisenstein on Wednesday January 03, 2024 @03:14AM (#38851832)
> Given that we are still some ways off from quantum computers that can actually break ECC, we would be trading security now for insecurity now.

What makes you think that practical quantum computers are a certainty? Everything I have read makes it seem more like a 'we can't not try to figure it out, because it might work' rather than a 'we are on the way to doing it, it just needs more time'.

Re:Double encryption: Analyzing the NSA/GCHQ arguments again... by hdhfjkrkrme on Wednesday January 03, 2024 @05:42AM (#38852608)
You can use this argument against anything not done yet: "we've been trying to build fusion reactors for 50 years now, we should give up now"
Re:Double encryption: Analyzing the NSA/GCHQ arguments again... by Eisenstein on Wednesday January 03, 2024 @09:07AM (#38854193)
Except that isn't the argument I am making.
Re:Double encryption: Analyzing the NSA/GCHQ arguments again... by hdhfjkrkrme on Wednesday January 03, 2024 @12:41PM (#38857000)
We have small quantum computers, we don't have big ones.

We have fusion power on small scale, we don't have it on commercial scale.

Seems to be the same argument.

Re:Double encryption: Analyzing the NSA/GCHQ arguments again... by count on Wednesday January 03, 2024 @02:49PM (#38858892)
We have small, usable quantum computers and have grown them for years.

We have never had fusion power on a small scale (we have had fusion ignition/reaction, but never [afaik] generated usable power), let alone showed continuous growth in scale of that power over the years.

They're not the same. Fusion is a 'science' problem, quantum is (mostly) an 'engineering' problem.

Re:Double encryption: Analyzing the NSA/GCHQ arguments again... by Eisenstein on Wednesday January 03, 2024 @03:11PM (#38859160)
Re-read my comment and then point out the spot where I advocated ceasing research and development of anything.
Re:Double encryption: Analyzing the NSA/GCHQ arguments again... by adrian_b on Wednesday January 03, 2024 @05:55AM (#38852706)
The possibility that good-enough quantum computers might not be possible, is just an additional argument for not replacing the current key exchange methods with post-quantum methods, but at most only with hybrid methods, which retain at least one method for which there exists reasonable trust.