Our company is finally looking at containerization and orchestration, and one product had the gall to say, Docker isn't for us. The non-technical people gasped because all the other products are moving towards orchestration!

Why? it's an ancient Windows Client/Server app. Each "node" manages its own state and communicates with each other in this proprietary, janky-ass way. It takes 10 minutes to start up a node.

K8/Swarm isn't going to do squat for this team except maybe launch dev/test environments a little easier.