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Re:Online Job Posts Contain Little Wage Information [pdf] by rjtavares on Tuesday January 02, 2024 @01:18PM (#38844906)
A lot of discussion in this thread seems to be ignoring the subjectivity in defining what a job is. Job analysis and design is a fascinating topic and should become more important with "AI" changing the way we work. Unfortunately it's a topic covered mostly by HR consultants (it would benefit greatly from interest from the HN crowd).

edit: to avoid confusion, I'm talking about "a job" as "a collection of similar positions", an Job Analysis as a "a family of procedures to identify the content of a job in terms of the activities it involves in addition to the attributes or requirements necessary to perform those activities"

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Re:Online Job Posts Contain Little Wage Information [pdf] by JeffSnazzy on Tuesday January 02, 2024 @01:23PM (#38844972)
> A lot of discussion in this thread seems to be ignoring the subjectivity in defining what a job is

Wage-based employment is not subjective, it is a formally defined and legally-regulated practice. You can call contract work a "job" but it's not relevant to the topic at hand—wages.

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Re:Online Job Posts Contain Little Wage Information [pdf] by rjtavares on Tuesday January 02, 2024 @01:34PM (#38845118)
That's not what my comment is about. That's a contractual distinction.

In the context of HR, a "Job" is a collection of similar positions, an Job Analysis is "a family of procedures to identify the content of a job in terms of the activities it involves in addition to the attributes or requirements necessary to perform those activities".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_analysis

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Re:Online Job Posts Contain Little Wage Information [pdf] by JeffSnazzy on Wednesday January 10, 2024 @11:52PM (#38947780)
> In the context of HR, a "Job" is a collection of similar positions, an Job Analysis is "a family of procedures to identify the content of a job in terms of the activities it involves in addition to the attributes or requirements necessary to perform those activities".

Why would you think this is relevant?

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Re:Online Job Posts Contain Little Wage Information [pdf] by bugglebeetle on Tuesday January 02, 2024 @01:56PM (#38845439)
Companies that don’t have a good picture of what they want or need for an individual role are rarely good places to work for. Generally, this means “we will pile on whatever responsibilities we feel like and without paying you more.”
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