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Re:Email addresses are not good 'permanent' identifiers for ... by jml7c5 on Sunday December 31, 2023 @02:27PM (#38826754)
>Passkeys aren’t device-bound. I think they’ll work just fine.

Is there anywhere to follow progress on this? I don't think anyone actually implements import/export of passkeys yet.

Re:Email addresses are not good 'permanent' identifiers for ... by rdl on Sunday December 31, 2023 @02:34PM (#38826824)
Don't they work pretty portably within Apple iCloud keychain or Google equivalent (but only one)? I think some of the legacy password managers are supporting this as well, although my preferred self-hosted vaultwarden option doesn't yet (bitwarden has support, but I don't think it is in the self hosted version yet, let alone in vaultwarden)

There are ways to set passkeys as non-exportable from device I think but that is not the default.

Re:Email addresses are not good 'permanent' identifiers for ... by pseudalopex on Sunday December 31, 2023 @05:10PM (#38827948)
Bound to devices chosen by Apple or Google is device bound.

What does legacy mean to you? The usual meaning of outdated is inapplicable in this case.

Re:Email addresses are not good 'permanent' identifiers for ... by dcow on Monday January 01, 2024 @04:31AM (#38830680)
No it’s not. At least that’s not what anybody in the security community means when they say device bound. Device bound implies the key is cryptographically tied to a piece of unique physical hardware.
Re:Email addresses are not good 'permanent' identifiers for ... by rdl on Monday January 01, 2024 @03:55PM (#38835251)
Device bound is to a specific piece of hardware (whether it supports reinstallation at some level is debatable but I wouldn't use the term for it; Signal is essentially single-concurrent-device-limited even though it has migration capability, but since it can be exported, it's not truly device bound. Apple, Google keychain lock-in is vendor or maybe account lock-in, not device lock-in. "Non-exportable" keys from a secure enclave make it device bound, although a sufficiently functional reprovisioning process might make that only a technical distinction.

Passwords are "legacy" security technology at this point (in the sense of being outdated and bordering on obsolete, and yet still needing to be supported) -- password managers are tools to manage that legacy technology.