Re:Compare Google, Bing, Marginalia, Kagi, Mwmbl, and ChatGPT
by marginalia_nu on Saturday December 30, 2023 @11:37PM
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Honestly I understand it well enough that I see it is surprisingly hard, but not enough to have good solutions...
Re:Compare Google, Bing, Marginalia, Kagi, Mwmbl, and ChatGPT
by golol on Sunday December 31, 2023 @12:34AM
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I just tested Mariginalia and it was completely unable to lead me to a Wikipedia or imdb page when searching for "driver ryan gosling" and variations. It just listed lots of random articles.
Re:Compare Google, Bing, Marginalia, Kagi, Mwmbl, and ChatGPT
by wisemang on Sunday December 31, 2023 @01:04AM
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That.. is kind of the point of this particular search engine.
> This is an independent DIY search engine that focuses on non-commercial content, and attempts to show you sites you perhaps weren't aware of in favor of the sort of sites you probably already knew existed.
Re:Compare Google, Bing, Marginalia, Kagi, Mwmbl, and ChatGPT
by golol on Sunday December 31, 2023 @02:55AM
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Well that makes sense, but I wanted to push against the result that the OP seems to take away from their test, which was that Marginalia seems to work well for the common user.
Re:Compare Google, Bing, Marginalia, Kagi, Mwmbl, and ChatGPT
by marginalia_nu on Sunday December 31, 2023 @07:24AM
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There's also a known bug with Wikipedia in particular, I do index it but the results are never ranked particularly high. I haven't fixed it because I don't want Wikipedia to be the #1 result for every search. Feels like most people are aware of Wikipedia and don't need help finding it.
Re:Compare Google, Bing, Marginalia, Kagi, Mwmbl, and ChatGPT
by lbalazscs on Sunday December 31, 2023 @08:21AM
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I often do a Google search, and then go directly to the Wikipedia result. My reasoning is that during the initial search, I don't know if there's a Wikipedia page about that topic, and I might need a fallback option.
Re:Compare Google, Bing, Marginalia, Kagi, Mwmbl, and ChatGPT
by strbean on Monday January 01, 2024 @12:19AM
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Unless it's something related to medicine; then you have to explicitly add "wiki" to the query. Some public health thing to discourage hypochondriacs I guess, but it's very annoying.
Re:Compare Google, Bing, Marginalia, Kagi, Mwmbl, and ChatGPT
by treetalker on Sunday December 31, 2023 @09:50AM
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Thanks for your work!
I have a suggestion for the “About” section at the top of Marginalia’s landing page. I think it would read better like this:
> This is an independent DIY search engine that focuses on non-commercial content, and attempts to show you sites you perhaps weren't aware of [instead] of the sort of sites you probably already knew existed.
Showing one thing “in favor of” another seems contradictory in this case.
Would you be able to share some of your personal highlights regarding this?
I've partially kept up-to-date with the DIY, non-corporate search space (YaCY and friends). I'd love to understand a bit more behind the engineering decisions made when creating a search engine; it seems like a very hard problem to solve.
P.S. Marginalia is a very impressive piece of work, overall -- I've heard nothing but positive remarks from users on here. I've been meaning to try it for a while, but time constraints have... well, constrained, thus far.