That is a policy problem. Opening up more immigration makes that problem worse, not better. It should be a question that everyone asks: why do US Universities not create an adequate supply of workers to meet the demand of the market? No one seems to care and the solution is always “just do more immigration”. Makes no sense.

I worked on the policy side before I entered tech.

You can't "command economy" human capital. It just doesn't work.

Upskilling has a 5-10 year long lag time.

Immigration is the only reason America hasn't stumbled like Europe, Japan, or Korea demographically.

>Upskilling has a 5-10 year long lag time.

So what? Again, this is a pipeline problem, that can be influenced and addressed via policy. I'm not trying to "command economy" anything. It's a problem that companies, and increasingly universities, don't think that it's a huge issue there not being enough home-grown citizens to fill these roles (a claim I find to be dubious at best). That is definitely something that policy can be used to fix.

>Immigration is the only reason America hasn't stumbled like Europe, Japan, or Korea demographically.

I don't know what this is supposed to mean. You want some demographic growth target to be hit? Europe has many countries in it, but mentioning Japan and Korea implies you have noticed the birth rates there. Well, I think the wrong question is being asked in that situation as well. If people aren't having babies, why? What changed? What policy options are there to fix that problem?

Thinking that "just import a new workforce" fixes that is extremely weird to me, especially when they are coming from places that are not exactly culturally proximate to the places they are going, to say the least.

The industry is so huge thats impossible to teach every aspect of the tech industry. The universities teach widely applicable curriculum.

Companies should train employees, simple as.

They do. Companies just prefer to hire immigrants willing to work twice as long for half the pay.

I guarantee you theres tons of engineers with backgrounds in O.S./Networking that could learn those things very quickly.

I bet most people working in it learned on the job. The certainly dont teach every single specific detail of the entire tech industry in universities.

This is just gaslighting.

> could learn those things very quickly

Maybe.

We didn't have the time to risk on hiring a dud in an industry as competitive as Cybersecurity.

When competing with Israeli and Indian companies who are able to tap the Israeli, Eastern European, and Indian talent scene where such skills are much more common, we don't have the time to risk timelines falling behind.

Oh such fear mongering.

With an decent background shouldnt take someone too long to get up to speed and that time isnt going to break the company.

Its what they do in other countries. lol

You clearly have with an agenda.

But none willing to work at the wages and working conditions that company is offering.

> 200-300k base with 15% annual bonus and equity ($300k-750k when I was working at public companies. I can't speak to my portfolio company's equity practices) is not a shit wage

That was what we were offering, but we were also demanding on quality and skill required.

We ended up getting some top performers in Israel and India for a fraction, despite being ready to pay the above.

I don’t believe you couldn’t find anyone for 750k. At least throw out a believable number. Also you know very well that the majority of H1b is for generic web dev jobs and not OS internals or whatever you were hiring for.

They probably made ridiculous requirements on the listing to show they posted the job and could not find people that met the description so they could hire an H1B

> to show they posted the job and could not find people that met the description so they could hire an H1B

Kinda telling that the so called smart people who have trouble getting hired have no clue that that's not a requirement for H1B.

The midwest is not sending their best.