New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for STEM workers

Re:New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for S... by pc86 on Thursday December 28, 2023 @10:24AM (#38794281)

I worked for a sexy startup (non AI and didn't steal user data, but did have ads) that got bought by one of these big hard-STEM companies. The scientists there who had 15 YOE and a PhD made less than programmers on our side with no college degree and 2-3 years of experience programming.

Hard-STEM seems to have lots of jobs where you can grind your ass off for the better part of a decade or two and hope to make $100-120k/yr by then if you're lucky. At least on the coding side you'll get to that level within a handful of years if you're willing to job switch often and optimize for that salary. Glad to hear there's at least one hard-STEM place where the grind isn't as bad.

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Re:New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for S... by raverbashing on Thursday December 28, 2023 @12:52PM (#38796176)

True

The "hard-stem" places rely on a bit of gaslighting and the "holier than thou" self-image of the "hard-stem" people to pay them less and to overwork them

As much as the IT world has issues, it is night and day compared to the hard-stem world where a lot of times they won't even look at you if you don't have a MSc or PhD. Learn on the job, what is that?

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