Not the OP you're replying to, but yes, if I choose to open-source my intellectual property, then I definitely expect FAANGs to be able to use it for free. That's what I want when I license my code open-source or public-domain. I'm allowed to give my labor away for free, and I choose to do so.

Even then, either you discriminate, or you don’t.

And they’re not really the worst one could think of, as FAANG thenselves contribute a lot to open source software.

> FAANG thenselves contribute a lot to open source software

The salaries of the people who work on those projects are paid by the revenue streams generated by the companies.

How else would it work?

...in a capitalist society. There are systems other than capitalism.

What is an example of a noncapitalist society with an open source software scene?

What is it that you want to know? The point is that in a society with a more socialist or communist approach, "ownership" of software can work entirely differently.

What the FSF calls "free software" and what OSI calls "open source" are essentially mechanisms for implementing such approaches in a capitalist context, in which the abstraction of "intellectual property" is enshrined in law.

I want to know how a socialist or communist approach can produce a viable open source ecosystem, and I want to learn about it by studying the actual results of an existing system, not the whim of theory.

If you want to make progress and improve things, but you limit yourself only to things that have existing examples, you're absolutely guaranteeing that you can only go backwards.

By the standard definition, "open source" doesn't exclude FAANG companies from using it in those ways.

You'd need to provide and justify some alternative definition of what open source should be to make your final claim make any sense. As it stands, your claim "that's not open source" doesn't match the reality.

Not just that, the current definition explicitly says you cannot exclude any group. https://opensource.org/osd/ (section 5)

Its not like this is a loop hole. Not descriminating against anyone (including faang) is literally the point.

Yes obviously. That is the entire point.