Re:We Sleep: a tale of institutional failure
by jemmyw on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @07:54PM
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A few years ago I was sitting next to a military phycologist who was flying home from a conference in Auckland, and she was reading this book. I had recently read the article, so we had a conversation about the book. She argued that the problems with the book were fairly well known within her circles, but she still thought it had positive influence because people were now talking about and thinking about sleep.
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Re:We Sleep: a tale of institutional failure
by borroka on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @11:39PM
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A rather poor argument from the psychologist. If you open any newspaper or magazine, every week/two issues there are recommendations/suggestions/new ideas on how to improve sleep or why we sleep.
Similarly, if you open any newspaper or magazine, every week/two issues there are recommendations/suggestions/new ideas on how to lose weight. But I wouldn't say that a new diet book that recommends eating only watermelon for 3 weeks to lose weight is a positive influence, "because people were now talking about and thinking about losing weight".
Re:We Sleep: a tale of institutional failure
by jemmyw on Thursday December 28, 2023 @12:21AM
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Sure but I'm not sure that was true when the book was released. Although I still don't find the book convincing. I personally find 8 hours too long.
Re:We Sleep: a tale of institutional failure
by 8n4vidtmkvmk on Friday December 29, 2023 @03:24AM
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I suspect the number is different for each person.
Re:We Sleep: a tale of institutional failure
by neuronerdgirl on Thursday December 28, 2023 @04:54AM
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Oh look, it's the Matt Walker book that reference chains into nowhere and is riddled with errors [1]. Yea, we know about it, and your acquaintance is a massive pain in the ass barrier for us to actually clear out his bad ideas from the mainstream. And fun fact, despite his bad science he's still a tenured professor at UC Berkeley.
Re:We Sleep: a tale of institutional failure
by jemmyw on Thursday December 28, 2023 @02:50PM
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Uh yeah that's the article I talked to this person about. I think, it was some time ago, but the dates line up. I even still had the article open on my laptop on the plane. I'm neutralish on the subject though, it was just a related anecdote on how someone else thinks about it.
Re:We Sleep: a tale of institutional failure
by neuronerdgirl on Thursday December 28, 2023 @09:55PM
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Oh that wasn't a knock on you, I'm just being salty about my field.
Re:We Sleep: a tale of institutional failure
by throwaway81523 on Thursday December 28, 2023 @07:51PM
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Try the older book "The Promise of Sleep" by the noted sleep researcher William C. DeMent. It is great.