Re:First new U.S. nuclear reactor since 2016 is now in opera...
by mp05 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @05:24PM
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I had a professor in an facilities course mention the improved level of industrialization of nuclear plant construction as a big reason why France managed to be successful with nuclear energy in a way that other countries have not. If so, is this one of those dreaded examples of the free market failing our actual best interests?
Re:First new U.S. nuclear reactor since 2016 is now in opera...
by billytetrud on Thursday December 28, 2023 @08:33PM
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?? How does that show a failure of the free market??
Re:First new U.S. nuclear reactor since 2016 is now in opera...
by mp05 on Tuesday January 02, 2024 @12:59PM
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The French government, through the Commissariat à l'énergie atomique et aux énergies alternatives, played a key role in standardization of civilian nuclear plants and, to my knowledge, the United States had no true parallel and instead relied on private companies to figure that amongst themselves. We all know how that tends to turn out.
Re:First new U.S. nuclear reactor since 2016 is now in opera...
by billytetrud on Tuesday January 02, 2024 @03:28PM
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I'm sorry but if you think the US had a "free market" for nuclear power, you're an idiot.
Re:First new U.S. nuclear reactor since 2016 is now in opera...
by mp05 on Tuesday January 02, 2024 @06:15PM
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I actually thought nothing and was curious enough to ask for clarity, as clearly demonstrated. But if you're the type to read into the question what you want just so you can call me an "idiot", that makes you a pretty special type of asshole there buddy.
Re:First new U.S. nuclear reactor since 2016 is now in opera...
by billytetrud on Thursday January 04, 2024 @12:36PM
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Your question was full of self righteous snark and your response to my question was as well. Trying to tell me you were just "curious" and "asking for clarity" is 100% bullshit and you know it. If you want to actually engage in a conversation, drop the snark and I'll be happy to have a pleasant conversation with you. Otherwise, I guess we'll both have to be assholes.
Re:First new U.S. nuclear reactor since 2016 is now in opera...
by mp05 on Thursday January 04, 2024 @04:59PM
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Or you could ask if my use of the word "dreaded" was sarcastic, because it wasn't.
I believe it was Mill who insisted that one should be able to argue the other side of a topic as well as the one they prefer :)
Re:First new U.S. nuclear reactor since 2016 is now in opera...
by billytetrud on Thursday January 04, 2024 @05:43PM
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I still don't see you making any constructive comment. If you're going to, make it your next one please. If you want an answer to your original rhetorical-looking question. The answer is no.
Re:First new U.S. nuclear reactor since 2016 is now in opera...
by wolverine876 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @05:03PM
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How much did they cost in France? How much do they cost?
> They reuse blueprints, and make use of interchangeable parts, unlike the US nuclear. As a bonus, they can train people once, then transfer them between identical nuclear plants. Also, if there is a near miss at one plant, they apply the safety upgrades to the whole fleet.
That all sounds good as a first impression, but I've learned to ask: Are those the primary bottlenecks and costs?
Re:First new U.S. nuclear reactor since 2016 is now in opera...
by bobthepanda on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @05:05PM
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EPR has been a total disaster, to the point where the state took over Areva.
They reuse blueprints, and make use of interchangeable parts, unlike the US nuclear. As a bonus, they can train people once, then transfer them between identical nuclear plants. Also, if there is a near miss at one plant, they apply the safety upgrades to the whole fleet.