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Re:'The End of Enlightenment' by Richard Whatmore Review by HKH2 on Saturday December 23, 2023 @08:46PM (#38750274)
> That the Enlightenment didn't figure everything out and precipitate the end of history in 1789 doesn't seem like an indictment of it

It's an indictment of the idea that reason is able to get us to transcend our nature.

Re:'The End of Enlightenment' by Richard Whatmore Review by jackcosgrove on Saturday December 23, 2023 @09:17PM (#38750469)
Things have gotten better since then haven't they? It's not just because of the industrial revolution; attitudes did change. I think the best indictment of the Enlightenment is that its thinkers were too premature with their declaration of victory over human nature. This is ongoing, in fits and starts, but with an upward trajectory.
Re:'The End of Enlightenment' by Richard Whatmore Review by HKH2 on Sunday December 24, 2023 @12:17AM (#38751336)
Your own declaration of success seems premature. We still haven't yet seen the full effects of post-religious societies.
Re:'The End of Enlightenment' by Richard Whatmore Review by hef19898 on Sunday December 24, 2023 @04:07AM (#38752280)
Because, enlightment or not, there are no post-religious societies.

What we did see, plenty, is the effect of highly religious societies, and it ain't pretty when religion and politics aren't seperated. And we see the first nascent examples of religious nationalism in India, which isn't pretty neither.

Re:'The End of Enlightenment' by Richard Whatmore Review by HKH2 on Sunday December 24, 2023 @06:56PM (#38758230)
If there are no post-religious societies, what makes you sure there can be post-religious politics?
Re:'The End of Enlightenment' by Richard Whatmore Review by araes on Sunday December 24, 2023 @02:46PM (#38756182)
By way of response, here's a link to the Inequality Database. Note the bottom 50% recently. Not very upward.

https://wid.world/country/usa/