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Re:Some Mexican pharmacies are selling full bottles of Adder... by epgui on Thursday December 21, 2023 @07:59PM (#38729519)
No.

Adderall is normally prescribed in the XR formulation (meaning it's an extended/slow release capsule), and has amphetamine as the active ingredient.

Methamphetamine is a different molecule altogether, and typically it's not packaged in slow-release capsules.

Yes, methamphetamine is structurally related to amphetamine, but you shouldn't make the mistake to think they are interchangeable. Very often the difference between two very similar molecules is the difference between life and death (for a classic example, look up the two enantiomers of thalidomide).

Re:Some Mexican pharmacies are selling full bottles of Adder... by seanp2k2 on Thursday December 21, 2023 @09:33PM (#38730237)
I've got some H3O+ for people who want to try something "similar" to water in the same way that Adderall is meth.
Re:Some Mexican pharmacies are selling full bottles of Adder... by valec on Thursday December 21, 2023 @09:58PM (#38730442)
This comparison is completely nonsensical.
Re:Some Mexican pharmacies are selling full bottles of Adder... by soudiere on Thursday December 21, 2023 @10:13PM (#38730531)
Yeah, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

If we just discussed this as d-amphetamine, l-amphetamine & methyl-amphetamine, the issue of interchangeability would be less confusing.

Re:Some Mexican pharmacies are selling full bottles of Adder... by valec on Thursday December 21, 2023 @09:57PM (#38730432)
Ok, but lisdexamphetamine (Vyvanse) and meth end up very similar in terms of pharmacokinetics and effects.
Re:Some Mexican pharmacies are selling full bottles of Adder... by soudiere on Thursday December 21, 2023 @10:11PM (#38730521)
Adderally XR formulations are still a minority of prescriptions.

Talking about methamphetamine as a different molecule is not helpful, as Adderall itself is not a single molecule.

Which I suspect you know, as you mention different enantiomers of thalidomide. However you don't point out that adderall itself is a 3:1 racemic mixture of l and d amphetamine.

The real discussion here is the receptor binding affinity of the various targets of the drugs, and how they compare.

Re:Some Mexican pharmacies are selling full bottles of Adder... by epgui on Friday December 22, 2023 @07:51AM (#38733629)
Racemic means 1:1. You can’t have a 3:1 racemic mixture.

The vast majority of adderall prescriptions are XR.

Enantiomers are structurally “the same molecule” (or people often speak this way depending on the context) but with different optical configurations.

Re:Some Mexican pharmacies are selling full bottles of Adder... by soudiere on Saturday December 23, 2023 @09:16AM (#38744355)
That is not what racemic means, ratios can exist.

There's a whole section, "Single-Isomer Versus Racemic Formulation", in this recent review article titled "Novel Formulations of ADHD Medications: Stimulant Selection and Management" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8412159/

The psychiatry handbook of Massachusetts General Hospital also uses racemic in this context https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/B97814...

Also, I can't find any data on what percentage of Adderall prescriptions are XR, have you found anything?

Looks like the LRx database would be the place to look from scanning this report for the DEA. https://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/pubs/docs/IQVIA_Report_on...