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Re:US utility firms offer builders cash/trips to fit new hom... by ska on Thursday December 21, 2023 @01:25PM (#38724474)
> That might be a bit of propaganda

Not really, there are a number of techniques that are harder (some not possible) on electric which has less control and high latency.

But ... it only matters if you are going to use such techniques.

Re:US utility firms offer builders cash/trips to fit new hom... by wharvle on Thursday December 21, 2023 @01:34PM (#38724655)
I can’t even cook scrambled eggs well on resistive electric. I mean, I can, but they won’t come out as good and there’s a much higher likelihood I’ll ruin them.

Delicate sauces? Getting a custard to come together just right? Maybe some people can, but me, forget about it. This is basic stuff, too, I don’t even know how to do anything fancy. I know that when I finally tried gas it was like “oh, I can cook now!”

Toasting flatbread and tortillas directly on the burners is handy.

IDK if I can do any of that on induction. I’ve only seen those in-person at the store and at one airbnb. We have a working gas stove and induction’s expensive, so I doubt I’ll own one for another decade or so, at least.

Re:US utility firms offer builders cash/trips to fit new hom... by RetpolineDrama on Thursday December 21, 2023 @02:53PM (#38725892)
Induction is faster, more precise, more efficient/green, safer, and most importantly not spewing toxic crap into your kitchen/living room where you presumably spend time with your family/children.

Even with an externally-vented vent hood (most dump back into the room) + make up air system (that most do not have) gas ranges still contaminate your kitchen.

Re:US utility firms offer builders cash/trips to fit new hom... by thsksbd on Thursday December 21, 2023 @01:37PM (#38724716)
Wok is impossible on electric.

One technique to recover lost heating control though is to place the pot partially on the element. You need a flat top electric and high quality cookware for that, but it works in a pinch

Re:US utility firms offer builders cash/trips to fit new hom... by bsder on Thursday December 21, 2023 @01:37PM (#38724708)
On old school electric.

Induction is way better for control and latency than gas.

The only issue is if you need to genuinely ignite something (like in wok cooking--but, then, get a blowtorch--if it's good enough for J. Kenji Lopez-Alt it's good enough for you).

One real problem is that the standalone induction burners are only 110V in the US and that hamstrings them dramatically. Induction cooktops, however, do not suffer from that issue as they will be wired into 208/220V.

Re:US utility firms offer builders cash/trips to fit new hom... by ska on Thursday December 21, 2023 @01:41PM (#38724786)
Agree induction is pretty great, although it limits cookware and still doesn't work for all techniques (blowtorch doesn't replace everything). And you are right that the 110V are underpowered.

The ones I've used are less granular than gas (which is essentially continuous) and latency is similar. From what I've seen europe is still way ahead on induction offerings, but it seems to be getting better.

I'd probably lean towards induction these days because the particulates from gas are obviously a problem and not easily dealt with - but I won't pretend induction is a 100% drop in replacement/improvement.

Re:US utility firms offer builders cash/trips to fit new hom... by wharvle on Thursday December 21, 2023 @01:55PM (#38725022)
Induction’s still pricey, too. The low end of gas ranges is low-priced, indeed. And ranges (can) last a long time, so old-school electric is gonna be the “normal” electric range for many years yet, I expect.

Just checked Lowes. Cheapest induction range, $999. Four gas options are $499 or lower, four resistive electrics $499 or lower.

Re:US utility firms offer builders cash/trips to fit new hom... by ska on Thursday December 21, 2023 @02:07PM (#38725183)
True. Even Ikea's cheapest seems to be about 800.
Re:US utility firms offer builders cash/trips to fit new hom... by bsder on Thursday December 21, 2023 @10:41PM (#38730704)
> The ones I've used are less granular than gas (which is essentially continuous) and latency is similar.

However, I find that gas has no granularity at the lowest settings. Induction has like 4 or 5 settings below the minimum setting of gas. This is really great for melting or softening things.

Maybe this is different on a professional gas stove, but I've never used one of those.