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Re:7.1M miles, 3 minor injuries: Waymo's safety data looks good by shepherdjerred on Thursday December 21, 2023 @12:32PM (#38723635)
Why not? Has Tesla had similar incidents?
Re:7.1M miles, 3 minor injuries: Waymo's safety data looks good by x86x87 on Thursday December 21, 2023 @05:18PM (#38727863)
Nope. We'll keep having accidents if everything is self driving as long as we keep Tesla in the mix.
Re:7.1M miles, 3 minor injuries: Waymo's safety data looks good by JoshCole on Thursday December 21, 2023 @01:33PM (#38724627)
I've been in a self-driving Tesla vehicle. After hours on the interstate, the person ahead of me slammed on their brakes suddenly. I was caught off guard, not expecting it, and may have crashed by not reacting in time. The Tesla braked. So I have anecdotal experience that the person you're asking for an answer isn't well informed on how Tesla's respond to this type of accident.

Of course, anecdotal evidence isn't a very high standard. Thankfully, statistics on this sort of thing are tracked. Statistically, the Tesla self-driving features reduce accidents per mile. They have for years now and as the tech has progressed the reduction has grown as the technology has matured. So statistical evidence also indicates that the person you are asking the question to is also uninformed.

What is probably happening is that it makes for good clickbait to involve Elon and Tesla into discussions. Moreover, successful content online often provokes emotion. The resulting preponderance of negativity, especially about each driving accident Teslas were involved in or caused, probably tricked them into misunderstanding the reality of the Tesla safety record.

Re:7.1M miles, 3 minor injuries: Waymo's safety data looks good by bluGill on Thursday December 21, 2023 @03:23PM (#38726340)
> Statistically, the Tesla self-driving features reduce accidents per mile

While that is the claim, I've never seen an independent analysis of the data. There are reasons to believe that Tesla drivers are not average. I don't know if what claims are true, which is why I want independent analysis of the data so that factors I didn't think of can be controlled for.

Re:7.1M miles, 3 minor injuries: Waymo's safety data looks good by x86x87 on Thursday December 21, 2023 @05:16PM (#38727845)
My Subaru from 2018 can do this. It's not rocket system and most cars nowadays have a collision detection system. This is not a slef-driving capability by any means.
Re:7.1M miles, 3 minor injuries: Waymo's safety data looks good by jryan49 on Friday December 22, 2023 @06:16PM (#38739791)
90% of new cars can do this, it's called AEB. It's not a Tesla self driving feature.
Re:7.1M miles, 3 minor injuries: Waymo's safety data looks good by mrguyorama on Thursday December 21, 2023 @01:44PM (#38724835)
Teslas keep ramming into parked vehicles on the side of the road, including emergency vehicles. So when a waymo car stops because it doesn't know how to safely proceed, the Teslas might just plow into it.