Re:CUDA vs. ROCm: A Case Study
by cherryteastain on Thursday December 21, 2023 @04:29AM
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The woes the author of the article or various posters in this thread are also side effects of "implementation details". I don't think anyone is critical of HIP as a programming language, as it's just a CUDA clone. Pretty much all complaints (crashes, perf issues, poor device compatibility) regarding HIP/ROCm pertain to poor implementation/execution, including the directly-emitting-device-specific-machine-code problem. AMD can't wriggle out of this one with that excuse.
Re:CUDA vs. ROCm: A Case Study
by ColonelPhantom on Thursday December 21, 2023 @04:31AM
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Oh, I'm not using it to excuse the issues! All I'm saying is that if AMD implemented SYCL instead they'd probably turn it into an equally big mess.
I very much agree - and I think some people misunderstood what I was trying to say too - that was that I don't think switching to SYCL would fix any of the problems that rocm currently has.
I personally feel many of the problems with rocm are due to lack of investment and management priority - there is no "technical" solution to that as a problem. And swapping out parts of that stack will just exacerbate those problems are now they need to rebuild everything from scratch with their insufficient resources.
There exists a HIP implementation that also compiles to SPIR-V, chipStar. And one can in theory write a SYCL compiler that generates machine code (maybe with openSYCL's HIP/ROCm backend?)