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Re:Cory Doctorow: What Kind of Bubble Is AI? by CuriouslyC on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @02:11PM (#38712384)
AI isn't a bubble. Bubbles may form when enthusiasm and money gets ahead of progress, but in the end AI will deliver just like the internet.
Re:Cory Doctorow: What Kind of Bubble Is AI? by adam_arthur on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @02:12PM (#38712405)
Bubble implies exuberance and overvaluation of financial assets, not whether the technology is valid or not.

It's easy to see how many current AI companies could end up being dud investments, even if they produce good models

Re:Cory Doctorow: What Kind of Bubble Is AI? by Delfwood on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @02:20PM (#38712482)
> AI isn't a bubble [because] AI will deliver just like the internet.

And everyone knows there was no internet bubble. No period of proliferation of available venture capital, rapid growth of valuations followed by all gains being lost.

Re:Cory Doctorow: What Kind of Bubble Is AI? by packetlost on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @02:14PM (#38712430)
> Bubbles may form when enthusiasm and money gets ahead of progress

Nah, it will deliver on some of those promises but there is definitely zero chance that it will deliver on all of them (maybe even most of them), but this also isn't how bubbles form.

Re:Cory Doctorow: What Kind of Bubble Is AI? by bryanlarsen on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @02:40PM (#38712690)
I think the Internet is the most apt example.

The Internet delivered 5 trillion dollar companies. It was also a bubble that popped in 2002. For every Google or Amazon there are a dozen Nortel's and Webvan's.

Re:Cory Doctorow: What Kind of Bubble Is AI? by lumost on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @02:15PM (#38712433)
internet was both a monumentally successful technology, and a bubble. The dot-com crash of 2000 saw most stocks give up all gains from the prior ~5 years, the surviving stocks took over a decade to recover their previous high.
Re:Cory Doctorow: What Kind of Bubble Is AI? by ponector on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @02:13PM (#38712418)
AI bubble will deliver just like the internet bubble.
Re:Cory Doctorow: What Kind of Bubble Is AI? by toasted-subs on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @02:14PM (#38712432)
Eh, I'd change the analogy.

AI is a bubble in the sense there isn't a direct path of put more money into research and get a better result. I'd almost argue we are spending money in the wrong areas.

The internet had clear and well defined steps for improvement. Although we can increase accuracy or whatever by 1-2% that doesn't define definitive steps toward AGI.

Re:Cory Doctorow: What Kind of Bubble Is AI? by CuriouslyC on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @02:16PM (#38712447)
Humanity is spending money in a lot of different areas, and we're seeing both theoretical and functional progress. The progress in applications is already destabilizing a lot of industries in just the last year, how much faster should we progress?