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Re:The Inner Ring (1944) by andrewflnr on Tuesday December 19, 2023 @03:03PM (#38700757)
No. I mean, maybe for some people. Some of us just enjoy talking about tech stuff online.
Re:The Inner Ring (1944) by flatline on Tuesday December 19, 2023 @07:41PM (#38704072)
He named it, so is ever so slightly wrong - but all of us who have been around for a while and have participated semi-regularly in discussions without getting banned are in. Relative to the global online population this is still a very small group.
Re:The Inner Ring (1944) by andrewflnr on Tuesday December 19, 2023 @08:15PM (#38704333)
I don't think that's quite right. In Lewis's thesis, you only really encounter the in/out question by interacting with people who are in. By your definition, interacting on HN puts you in already. And "and have participated semi-regularly in discussions without getting banned" is a much lower bar than anything Lewis is talking about. You'd have a much better point w.r.t. lobste.rs or other invite-only forums, but the whole concept is dubious without private discussions.
Re:The Inner Ring (1944) by cratermoon on Tuesday December 19, 2023 @10:19PM (#38705072)
The forum itself enforces a level of in/out. There's the green text for new users, then karma thresholds gating some actions.
Re:The Inner Ring (1944) by andrewflnr on Tuesday December 19, 2023 @10:29PM (#38705130)
Still a ludicrously low bar. Doesn't change much (again, compared to Lewis's inner ring).
Re:The Inner Ring (1944) by cratermoon on Thursday December 21, 2023 @12:16PM (#38723361)
Granted, but I'm not saying that just posting and commenting on HN, or passing the various gates, constitutes being 'in'. Even having high karma isn't 'in'. I don't know if I can articulate what counts as being 'in', but certainly participation in a YC round is part of it.
Re:The Inner Ring (1944) by andrewflnr on Thursday December 21, 2023 @01:32PM (#38724620)
No, that actually kind of is what you were saying in your previous comment, about what "the forum itself enforces".

You could identify a set of people who are widely respected and listened to, but that's a different thing again from what Lewis is talking about. YC itself is arguably closer, but only tenuously connected in practice to HN social dynamics. I certainly couldn't tell you which members I pay attention to have been through YC (except for the ones who definitely haven't).