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Re:How Africans Are Changing French – One Joke, Rap and Book... by watwut on Monday December 18, 2023 @02:39AM (#38680086)
> Non-native speakers are much more resilient to strong accents and broken grammar. Probably because they passed themselves by this step

You just don't feel foreign language the way you feel own. Swearing in foreign language is just a word woth another meaning.

Not being bothered by bad grammar and what not is the same - butchered foreign language is not annoying nor more effort to understand. Butchered own language hurts ears the way foreign one does not.

Re:How Africans Are Changing French – One Joke, Rap and Book... by quickthrower2 on Monday December 18, 2023 @02:49AM (#38680129)
> Swearing in foreign language is just a word woth another meaning.

I don't think so. Swear word is a swear word. It feels just as taboo to me.

Re:How Africans Are Changing French – One Joke, Rap and Book... by hnarn on Monday December 18, 2023 @03:25AM (#38680280)
That’s just partly true. While non-native speakers obviously recognize that something is a swear word, without immersion it’s often hard to gauge how it will be perceived by native speakers, simply because you don’t meet many, or any, to get reactions from.

I’m a non native speaker and it wasn’t until University when I met actual Americans that I realized my swearing could be ear-curling from time to time — I simply hadn’t noticed the reaction I got before in my life.

A simple example is the Swedish word “skit” and the English “shit”. In Swedish it’s actually pretty benign, for different reasons it’s not at all at the top of our swearing hierarchy: if you’d use “shit” in English in the same situations as you’d use “skit” in Swedish, English people will react.

So both in cases where there are cognates and a lack of actual experience with native speakers, there’s definitely a disconnect. I think any native speakers who have met good non native speakers have experienced this, they have 80-90% down but lack the cultural context (because where would it come from, movies isn’t enough)

Re:How Africans Are Changing French – One Joke, Rap and Book... by throw_away7653 on Monday December 18, 2023 @05:03AM (#38680801)
As a Norwegian, we also have swear words that are not that bad. The problem is that the closest translation is often "fuck". So if you meet a Norwegian, don't be surprised if they drop the f-bomb frequently in business meetings. Many are not aware of the social context.
Re:How Africans Are Changing French – One Joke, Rap and Book... by quickthrower2 on Monday December 18, 2023 @06:51AM (#38681354)
UK has git, sod, bastard, shit, tosser etc. Which you would use at work depends on work culture of course.
Re:How Africans Are Changing French – One Joke, Rap and Book... by watwut on Monday December 18, 2023 @05:11AM (#38680838)
For me, it is not so much that I am not aware. I am aware.

But, when you swear in my language, I am bothered by it. It feels rude. Swearing in foreign language does not bother me at all. It does not feel rude.