South Korea to see population plummet to 1970s levels, government says

Re:South Korea to see population plummet to 1970s levels, go... by prng2021 on Friday December 15, 2023 @01:48PM (#38657201)

Please stop spreading this kind of information around the internet as if it’s anywhere remotely close to an ok place to live. I’ve actually stayed overnight there. I saw tons of what I initially thought were elementary or middle school kids but found out they were all tremendously malnourished high schoolers. When I tried passing out food and candy to one of them, another one yelled at him for acting like a beggar. All lights, even at my hotel, were shut off shortly after sunset. Paper was in huge shortage so when I asked for additional napkins at dinner, I got 1 single-ply square. It was a super depressing experience. Pyongyang is better but North Korea isn’t just that 1 city. I was exploring other areas in the northwest.

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Re:South Korea to see population plummet to 1970s levels, go... by mitthrowaway2 on Friday December 15, 2023 @02:09PM (#38657489)

It doesn't sound like you observed gender disparity in education... Did you? If so, you should say so, because that's what the GP was commenting on. Do you have other thoughts regarding their fertility rate?

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Re:South Korea to see population plummet to 1970s levels, go... by prng2021 on Friday December 15, 2023 @03:57PM (#38658727)

“Stereotyped gender roles begin in childhood. Girls learn they are not equal to boys and cannot resist mistreatment and abuse, and that they should feel shame if they become targets of abuse by men, whether in the home or in public spaces”

https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/12/21/submission-rights-women-...

My own time there was limited but I watched music and dance performances comprised almost entirely of young girls. In contrast, I saw tons of people in military uniform or in training, clearly of widely varying ages, but 100% male. If “gender disparity in education” is as shallow as, do girls and boys both learn algebra, then the answer is probably no. But I observed what looked like complete brainwashing of expected gender roles and your future contribution to society, starting at a very young age.

Regarding fertility rate there, I never trust any specific numbers they publish like the 1.8 mentioned. Literally 1 person there has control over what stats the rest of the world sees, balancing his imagination/vision with what the rest of the world will actually believe.

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Re:South Korea to see population plummet to 1970s levels, go... by mitthrowaway2 on Friday December 15, 2023 @04:54PM (#38659286)

Thanks, that's a much more substantive response!

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Re:South Korea to see population plummet to 1970s levels, go... by matrix87 on Friday December 15, 2023 @02:04PM (#38657399)

They allow you outside of Pyongyang? How did you manage to do that, were you under some kind of govt supervision?

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Re:South Korea to see population plummet to 1970s levels, go... by mytailorisrich on Friday December 15, 2023 @04:47PM (#38659223)

Who said it was an OK place to live? Is anything I wrote incorrect? (If it is please correct me)

I am just pointing out that there is an established and comprehensive education system that includes women.

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Re:South Korea to see population plummet to 1970s levels, go... by prng2021 on Friday December 15, 2023 @09:15PM (#38661143)

You wrote “equality of schooling between genders”. I wrote a separate reply under your thread explaining it’s far from equal.

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Re:South Korea to see population plummet to 1970s levels, go... by mytailorisrich on Saturday December 16, 2023 @06:13AM (#38663418)

No you posted an anecdote that is tangential at best...

Boys and girls learn to read, write, count, etc in the same way.

The original poster expected girls/women to be uneducated/under-educated. This is an aspect that may hold true in countries like Afghanistan or some Africa countries but not in North Korea, which has a totally different culture and level of development.

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