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Re:Could VC be a Casualty of the Recession? by netcan on Thursday December 04, 2008 @10:26PM (#386558)
If your thesis is correct, then these are really the ones that need focusing on. If the world is about to be be bombarded with startups, they can't all be bought or go to IPO.

The remaining startups will need to find a middle ground of some sort.

Re:Could VC be a Casualty of the Recession? by pg on Friday December 05, 2008 @01:23AM (#386731)
I don't think there's any limit to the number that could get bought. The upside that founders are willing to trade in exchange for safety is an opportunity that would call acquirers into being if they didn't already exist.

And why couldn't there be 100 or 1000 times as many public companies? Stranger things have happened in history.

Re:Could VC be a Casualty of the Recession? by netcan on Friday December 05, 2008 @01:35AM (#386739)
"And why couldn't there be 100 or 1000 times as many public companies? Stranger things have happened in history."

They would need to be smaller or the economy would need to be bigger. Ties in with your other essay.

Re:Could VC be a Casualty of the Recession? by sielskr on Friday December 05, 2008 @01:44AM (#386748)
There could be 100 times as many U.S. public companies while Sarbanes-Oxley remains in effect?
Re:Could VC be a Casualty of the Recession? by marvin on Friday December 05, 2008 @11:19AM (#387156)
Obviously not, but that wasn't the point.
Re:Could VC be a Casualty of the Recession? by sielskr on Saturday December 06, 2008 @05:05AM (#388015)
Sarbanes-Oxley is probably not going to be repealed or significantly reformed, so was the point purely theoretical?
Re:Could VC be a Casualty of the Recession? by marvin on Saturday December 06, 2008 @09:32AM (#388102)
It's a mistake to view political barriers as insurmountable. It's practically impossible to repeal the legislation, but maybe someone will open another liquid market for equities through some weird loophole. And remember that we are talking about social change in a timeframe of decades here. There is no telling what could happen.

Efficiency and reason tend to win in the end. There is much to be gained by having less bureaucracy and red tape for public companies, assuming that they are public companies of a different type than what they are today.

Re:Could VC be a Casualty of the Recession? by fallentimes on Friday December 05, 2008 @08:39AM (#386975)
Private companies can issue dividends too - it's what we plan on doing if we're fortunate enough to get that far (1). M&A is for suckers (2) and IPOs aren't worth the trouble anymore unless you desperately need liquidity (e.g. Google) or you're not profitable.

1 - Assuming the capital gains tax remains similar to what it is currently.

2 - http://is.gd/2Fla

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=304790