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Re:FBI seizes riseup.net server by samstave on Thursday April 19, 2012 @06:43PM (#3865568)
This is a testament to why you would want to use AWS virtual instances and never have "a server" - point your domain at a new instance should one machine get ordered off by the FBI.
Re:FBI seizes riseup.net server by soult on Thursday April 19, 2012 @07:07PM (#3865664)
Good idea. "The cloud" worked real wonders for Wikileaks.
Re:FBI seizes riseup.net server by carguy1983 on Thursday April 19, 2012 @06:51PM (#3865607)
Wow, you place an awful lot of faith in amazon.
Re:FBI seizes riseup.net server by samstave on Thursday April 19, 2012 @06:54PM (#3865620)
Not really actually, I just mean having a discrete server that can be "seized" is not a particularly robust solution.
Re:FBI seizes riseup.net server by carguy1983 on Thursday April 19, 2012 @08:33PM (#3865932)
... and what do you think an Amazon slice is? It sits on a physical machine that can be identified, located, and handed over by Amazon given a lawful request, all without the site operators knowing.

You think they give a fuck about the other 4 slices on your server? No. They don't. In fact it says so right in their SLA.

Re:FBI seizes riseup.net server by samstave on Thursday April 19, 2012 @08:46PM (#3865970)
I used the word ROBUST

If you are trying to defy the FBI, and 100% of your site architecture resides within Amazon's infrastructure you are not robust.

Re:FBI seizes riseup.net server by guccimane on Thursday April 19, 2012 @07:11PM (#3865680)
Flouting law enforcement does not strike me as a good design goal. If the law wants you to stop doing something, they will make sure you stop.
Re:FBI seizes riseup.net server by samstave on Thursday April 19, 2012 @07:41PM (#3865775)
Law enforcement, failed hard drive, link outage, whatever...

They are all the same == Downtime.

My point is that if you have a "server" that can be seized, you have not designed a robust system.

Imagine the FBI trying to seize Google or Amazon or Facebook (well, a lot easier in the case of facebook only because they have so few datacenters by comparison.)