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Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by StressedDev on Friday December 15, 2023 @02:44AM (#38651946)
If someone is ostracizing you because you do not own an iPhone, you probably want to avoid that person. I have never met anyone who would do this and frankly, only an extremely nasty person would do this. I am mean seriously, why ostracized someone because they use a different type of phone?
Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by vineyardmike on Friday December 15, 2023 @04:18AM (#38652441)
Do you forget being a teenager? /s

It's not simply a MeanGirls experience of not being cool enough. Most Americans don't use or have 3rd party apps like WhatsApp, so most people will fall-back to SMS, which is objectively a much worse experience. I feel like the adult equivalent is getting group dinner with a friend with severe allergies or dietary restrictions. You care about your friend, and you want to invite them, but the effort to include them is high and sometimes you want to try a restaurant you know they can't eat at, so you skip the invite. I'm a vegetarian, and I know my friends skip me outright in the steakhouse dinners.

50% of Americans have an iPhone, and that is even higher for teenagers (almost 90%). That means >50% of people have this superior group functionality built-in (can't beat defaults). That means for teenagers, most of your friends will have iMessages, and most will be able to do effortless group chats, and its a statistical dice-roll to see if someone doesn't have an iPhone. You become "that guy" that causing disruption, and you'll 100% be ignored sporadically.

Again, the issue isn't "I don't wanna see green bubbles", the issue is "I don't want to bother with a third party app for this conversation". Since most people don't regularly use 3rd party messaging apps, there's a coordination issue to be solved picking the app and confirming everyone has it, OR falling back to SMS which is pretty messy. The alternative is to skip one friend and just fill them in later. Sometimes it's easier, it's not an elitist attempt to ostracize.

Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by withinboredom on Friday December 15, 2023 @08:11AM (#38653805)
This is an adulting problem. Most of my adult friends use WhatsApp around me. So, our kids use WhatsApp because that is how they communicate with us. So, the "actual" solution is to start using WhatsApp (or whatever) and get your friends to do it. Then force your kids to do it ... then bam, iMessage no longer matters.
Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by text0404 on Friday December 15, 2023 @12:24PM (#38656292)
sorry but this sounds like it's written by someone who is definitely not a teenager and who hasn't experienced this before.
Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by vineyardmike on Friday December 15, 2023 @01:10PM (#38656822)
Not a teenager today but I was ~13 when iMessages came out, and owned an iPhone since. Except for 3mo when I was 16.
Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by Aeglaecia on Friday December 15, 2023 @03:57AM (#38652342)
I admire the surety in children applying logic to their behaviour
Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by fennecfoxy on Friday December 15, 2023 @05:28AM (#38652786)
First of all you forget what it's like being a teen/young person I guess, or perhaps your personality is different from most, but that sort of social pressure is quite tough on people.

Apple also relies on the path of least resistance as well, if someone is having a poor experience in a group chat with their iPhone friends...it just becomes "easy" for them to choose an iPhone the next time they change phones.

Look at other companies, Microsoft porting Office etc to MacOS, Google services like maps gmail etc available on the iPhone. It's only Apple that walls their tech in so that it's only on iPhone - they don't care about profit lost to not expanding their reach because they reinforce their own platform.

Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by expensive_news on Friday December 15, 2023 @09:41AM (#38654622)
I have met people that will do this, and trust me, they are worth avoiding.
Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by jollyllama on Friday December 15, 2023 @01:40PM (#38657117)
They're imagining that they won't just get made fun of for something else. It never ends; you either have to not care, conform, or sustain trauma.
Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by standardUser on Friday December 15, 2023 @03:13PM (#38658255)
> I am mean seriously, why ostracized someone because they use a different type of phone?

Your current lived experiences may not be in sync with people in their teens or twenties. This is a well-known phenomenon called "green bubble bullying" that Apple has masterfully orchestrated to make people force other people to buy their phones.