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Re:'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israe... by s1artibartfast on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @01:14PM (#38631616)
I think the compairison to Japan and Germany is interesting, although there are obvious differences.

Both Japan and Germany had major civil cities leveled and gave unconditional surrender in WWII, and were occupied.

Germany was stripped of its sovereignty and former statehood. It was administered by the allies for 5 years and permanently lost 25% of its territory (compared to its 1937 pre-war borders.) It took 25 years post WWII for Germany to be admitted to the UN.

Japan was Occupied and administered by US military for 7 years following the war, and parts of the Japanese home islands are still administered 70 years later. Japan Lost multiple territories it had held for more than 60 years before WWII started.

I think that what we learned from WWII and subsequent wars that you need unconditional surrender and acceptance for any real nation building to take place.

Perhaps Palestine needs their equivalent to Germany's first post-war chancellor Konrad Adenauer, who accepted that Germany lost, and was willing look forward and not back.

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