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Re:Polish Hackers that repaired DRM trains threatened by tra... by matkoniecz on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @11:58AM (#38630212)
since when copyright does not exist in Europe?
Re:Polish Hackers that repaired DRM trains threatened by tra... by ferdek on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @05:58PM (#38635414)
For instance, in Poland (which is in Europe) you have all rights to create copies of software, music, movies, for your personal use after paying for the original copy. You cannot do this under copyright which strictly forbids you from creating copies of the original media. Copy-right, as a right to create copies.

In this meaning, copyright is not the same as authorship rights, which is a basis of intellectual property protection in Europe.

Similarly for software patents, they do not work in EU.

Re:Polish Hackers that repaired DRM trains threatened by tra... by matkoniecz on Thursday December 14, 2023 @02:25PM (#38645993)
> you cannot do this under copyright which strictly forbids you from creating copies of the original media.

copyright having exceptions does not mean that copyright does not exist

unless you claim that copyright does not exist in USA because they have fair use?

Re:Polish Hackers that repaired DRM trains threatened by tra... by p_l on Thursday December 14, 2023 @03:30PM (#38646827)
It's badly expressed (and not exactly relevant to the train lockout issue), but no, Copyright as in the american sense does not exist in Poland, and similarly in many other European countries.

That's why we have the relevant legal act discuss separate aspects of "moral" and "financial" "Author's rights" to a creation, instead of just singular "copyright", and why American-style "public domain" does not exist in Polish legal system, or that of many other EU countries (US' style public-domain involves effectively losing all rights to the creation, including moral ones, whereas those are non-dismissible, non-transferable and permament in Polish law).

The exact way things differ would probably require a philosopher and a lawyer to discuss differences of.

Re:Polish Hackers that repaired DRM trains threatened by tra... by matkoniecz on Friday December 15, 2023 @07:50PM (#38660718)
It was introductory lecture not treated really seriously, but what was described to me is that there is

(a) copyright (b) moral rights

which are separate. Maybe it was badly described or I misremember what I learned decade ago.