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Re:Polish Hackers that repaired DRM trains threatened by tra... by rjmunro on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @11:39AM (#38629891)
I don't think this is true. I think the legality of what they did is totally clear under article 5 & 6 of the EU Computer Programs Directive. https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX:32...

Reverse Engineering (Decompiling) software that you own to fix errors and allow interoperability is explicitly allowed.

Re:Polish Hackers that repaired DRM trains threatened by tra... by btilly on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @01:18PM (#38631692)
I don't think that you are reading that like a lawyer would.

For example article 6, part 2 (a) does not allow the information retrieved to be used for any purpose other than establishing interoperability. The hackers stepped over that line when they released some of what they discovered for the purpose of publicly criticizing the manufacturer.

Re:Polish Hackers that repaired DRM trains threatened by tra... by p_l on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @02:16PM (#38632683)
There's ECH ruling that fixing errors is legit case of interoperability.
Re:Polish Hackers that repaired DRM trains threatened by tra... by bell-cot on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @11:47AM (#38630019)
I hope that you are correct.

I fear that (allowing for the "someone with enough money and lawyers can make your life hell" effect) you are not.

Re:Polish Hackers that repaired DRM trains threatened by tra... by 6510 on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @11:50AM (#38630075)
I think this should be filled under sabotage of critical infrastructure.

It is either that or DRM means the OEM gets to remotely shut down entire train network whenever they like? Imagine the money one could make with such a service.

Re:Polish Hackers that repaired DRM trains threatened by tra... by WesolyKubeczek on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @12:48PM (#38631190)
From what I gathered in Polish media, the Dragon Sector's attorney has implied they are eyeing exploring this possibility legally.
Re:Polish Hackers that repaired DRM trains threatened by tra... by virtue3 on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @01:13PM (#38631588)
yeah screw this. if they are claiming that they hacked their DRM they should absolutely counter sue that this DRM counts as sabotage and/or domestic terrorism. There was literally code in there that told the trains to stop working after X date if it sat still for X amount of time.

That's bonkers. And criminal.

Re:Polish Hackers that repaired DRM trains threatened by tra... by p_l on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @02:19PM (#38632750)
Prosecution started working from statues that talk about crimes of preventing someone from operating, as well as manipulation or prevention of proper handling of data relevant to national security and/or transportation.

Neither cares about breaking DRM or IP, but third party (including vendor) manipulation.

Re:Polish Hackers that repaired DRM trains threatened by tra... by nolist_policy on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @01:24PM (#38631797)
Yes, imagine if a individual did this and not a company. A individual would probably go to jail.