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Re:Tesla FSD Timeline by cbeach on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @06:56AM (#38626032)
They've never used LIDAR. Tesla have always been all-in on a vision based system, with Elon stating that LIDAR is a "crutch," and a "fools errand"

> Andrej Karparthy, Senior Director of AI, took the stage and explained that the world is built for visual recognition. Lidar systems, he said, have a hard time deciphering between a plastic bag and a rubber tire. Large scale neural network training and visual recognition are necessary for Level 4 and Level 5 autonomy, he said.

> “In that sense, lidar is really a shortcut,” Karparthy said. “It sidesteps the fundamental problems, the important problem of visual recognition, that is necessary for autonomy. It gives a false sense of progress, and is ultimately a crutch. It does give, like, really fast demos!”

https://techcrunch.com/2019/04/22/anyone-relying-on-lidar-is...

Re:Tesla FSD Timeline by infotogivenm on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @07:19AM (#38626286)
Ah good point, radar/ultrasonics were what I was thinking of, not lidar. Looks like they’re still gone.
Re:Tesla FSD Timeline by hprotagonist on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @07:10AM (#38626209)