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Re:'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israe... by seo-speedwagon on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @12:42AM (#38623163)
My personal opinion? Israel’s trying to prosecute its genocide slowly enough that it won’t be noticed / stopped. But if you’re looking for some more expansive reading on the subject you can start here.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mowing_the_lawn

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine

Re:'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israe... by kmlx on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @06:25AM (#38625776)
Re:'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israe... by wahnfrieden on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @01:19PM (#38631713)
You're repeating distorted propaganda: https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/population-growth-ethni...

>Denying or minimizing the Nakba is nothing new. A brief look at our myths section shows that the Palestinian refugees and their ethnic cleansing have always been the target of Israeli propaganda. From blaming the Palestinians for their own expulsion, to claiming that no expulsions happened at all, you will find contradictory talking points to fit any purpose.

>What these myths have in common is their dishonesty in how they present information. They either decontextualize data to influence conclusions, or they build an argument on erroneous assumptions and projections. This myth mixes both these approaches.

>From the get-go, it launches its argument from a false definition of ethnic cleansing, conflating it with outright genocide. While it is argued that ethnic cleansing is a form of genocide, it can vary in the methods used. For example, you do not need to wipe out an ethnic group to practice ethnic cleansing. The term “ethnic cleansing” came to prominence after its widespread practice in the regions of former Yugoslavia, a United Nations Commission of Experts referred to ethnic cleansing as:

>“… a purposeful policy designed by one ethnic or religious group to remove by violent and terror-inspiring means the civilian population of another ethnic or religious group from certain geographic areas.” This is not a mere misunderstanding by hasbarists, but a deliberate twisting of the term to make a slanted argument not compatible with the full definition.

>(Similarly, the term Apartheid is often incorrectly used to mean a complete carbon copy of South Africa when the definition of Apartheid says no such thing. There are many examples and types of Apartheid. The insistence on this false definition is to distract you from that fact and to stop you from judging Israel by the criteria of the legal definition.)

>With the information above in mind, it becomes clear that looking at the total population number to determine if any ethnic cleansing happened is not in and of itself a useful indicator. Indeed, if everyone was pushed out of New York into Austin, the total population number of New Yorkers would not differ. This would not change the fact that the entire population of New York was expelled. When the correct dates and areas are specified, not even openly pro-Israel websites like Jewish Virtual Library can dispute the fact that Palestinians were ethnically cleansed from the areas people today call “Israel”: >Population numbers >(The table has been abridged for brevity. You can access the full table here)

>This is the reason why many Zionist memes trying to “debunk” this historical fact often begin their table after 1948. This kind of cherry-picking of data, and the suppression of inconvenient facts is rife in the Zionist narrative of the Nakba.

Re:'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israe... by kmlx on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @04:30PM (#38634399)
> ethnic cleansing, conflating it with outright genocide

oh, so semantics not actual genocide, got it.

Re:'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israe... by wahnfrieden on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @04:42PM (#38634546)
You agree it's ethnic cleansing