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Re:Cloud engineer gets 2 years for wiping ex-employer's code... by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @12:59PM (#38615820)
Naturally, that sounds on point for every company everywhere.

Though I've heard it's quite common in large enterprises that are fragmented due to a lot of aqui-hires, for corporate HR to forget or miss people they supposed to fire and who still remain on the payroll, especially on the satelite offices where there's no on-prem HR and nobody really knows what's going on from central.

A friend of mine was theoretically fired along with his entire team but just not him because corporate HR forgot about him or something, so he still showed up at the office without his team and without any work to do, badged in and played videogames all day for almost a year while getting paid in full, until some other people started asking "hey, who's is this guy and what does he actually do here all by himself?", then they actually fired him, or more like paid him a generous severance package to leave voluntarily in silence and not tell anyone about HR's blunder.

Lucky bastard.

Re:Cloud engineer gets 2 years for wiping ex-employer's code... by 0cf8612b2e1e on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @01:51PM (#38616553)
Was it required he even show up to work? Presumably the checks would keep coming.

On the other hand, in a just world, continuing to show up would make it impossible for the company to try and claw back the money. He was available even if nobody asked anything of him.

I am more interested in how he was caught. There are many people around me who seemingly do nothing, he would just blend into the crowd. Were there layoffs or some other accounting of personnel that forced the issue?

Re:Cloud engineer gets 2 years for wiping ex-employer's code... by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @02:57PM (#38617538)
>Was it required he even show up to work? Presumably the checks would keep coming.

He had to show up at work because he was never formally fired. If he hadn't showed up at work but still collect his paychecks then it would have been breaking the law and the company would have clawed back all paychecks. By showing up at work he was just fulfilling his contractual obligations, it wasn't his fault nobody gave him any work to do so he was legally entitled to collect paychecks while playing games and doing side projects at work.

> There are many people around me who seemingly do nothing, he would just blend into the crowd.

Not always the case. It might be a thing in large enterprises of US/Anglophone countries from what I noticed, but in German speaking countries it's not really common for people to show up at the office and do nothing all day, the efficiency and work ethic tends to be relatively higher, especially at smaller offices. So you stand out, people will gossip and eventually someone above will inquire about that guy without a team doing nothing.

Sure, you can lie to everyone around you about why you're still here without your team doing nothing so they stop asking questions, but lying can still be considered a felony here if the thing ends up in court and get you in actual legal trouble later as they will still find out eventually about you, so it's best to be honest and legally enjoy the ride while it lasts.

Re:Cloud engineer gets 2 years for wiping ex-employer's code... by nradov on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @09:02PM (#38621747)
Even if there was severe employee misconduct, in most US states it wouldn't be legally possible to claw back wages that had already been paid to a W-2 employee unless there was a specific contract in place allowing the employer to do so. A few executives have such contracts with clawback provisions (mainly in financial services) but they really aren't a thing for regular employees. If the employee had actually stolen money through fraud or embezzlement then the employer could file a civil suit to recover damages, but wages are a separate issue entirely.
Re:Cloud engineer gets 2 years for wiping ex-employer's code... by FirmwareBurner on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @03:52AM (#38624471)
It's legal in Europe to claw back wages if they prove you have been absent from work. Granted, they'll have to sue you for that, but they'll win if your time sheets how you never showed up even though your contract said you should.
Re:Cloud engineer gets 2 years for wiping ex-employer's code... by redrove on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @02:28AM (#38623782)
I’ve worked with Germans my entire life and I’ve met more people that do nothing than people that actually contribute — you’re full of it.
Re:Cloud engineer gets 2 years for wiping ex-employer's code... by FirmwareBurner on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @03:50AM (#38624460)
Not my experience. Maybe you just worked at some terrible companies with terrible people.
Re:Cloud engineer gets 2 years for wiping ex-employer's code... by sonicanatidae on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @01:57PM (#38616664)
It's usually time. I knew a guy that "worked" at Walmart. His job was collecting the carts. He would clock in, then go on about his day. When it was time to clock out, he would drive back and clock out.

It took 8 months for the store to realize this and fire his butt. In his case, it was a meeting. It was an All Hands, his timecard showed he was clocked in, but never appeared at the meeting.

Re:Cloud engineer gets 2 years for wiping ex-employer's code... by sonicanatidae on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @01:08PM (#38615954)
This happens, but Last Access Audits usually catch them. Most people don't continue working after they've been termed.

Not a silver bullet, but it covers a majority of these cases.

Re:Cloud engineer gets 2 years for wiping ex-employer's code... by Sohcahtoa82 on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @03:05PM (#38617644)
> Though I've heard it's quite common in large enterprises that are fragmented due to a lot of aqui-hires, for corporate HR to forget or miss people they supposed to fire and who still remain on the payroll

Milton has entered the chat.

Re:Cloud engineer gets 2 years for wiping ex-employer's code... by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @03:06PM (#38617667)
Office Space was more of a documentary than a satire.
Re:Cloud engineer gets 2 years for wiping ex-employer's code... by sonicanatidae on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @03:28PM (#38617950)
Sad but true.
Re:Cloud engineer gets 2 years for wiping ex-employer's code... by alexpotato on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @08:18PM (#38621391)
> Though I've heard it's quite common in large enterprises that are fragmented due to a lot of aqui-hires, for corporate HR to forget or miss people

I've worked at small (<1000 people) firms where there were at least 10 different entitlements systems and removing someone was a nightmare. I can 100% believe that this also happens at large companies (due to acquisition as you mention) too.