Re:Epic win: Jury decides Google has illegal monopoly in app...
by ralfd on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @08:22AM
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Is it statistically insignificant? My guess would be that sooner or later most subscribers are long term customers.
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Re:Epic win: Jury decides Google has illegal monopoly in app...
by andy_ppp on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @09:18AM
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If it wasn't significant in terms of Apple's profits why would they not just charge 15%...
Re:Epic win: Jury decides Google has illegal monopoly in app...
by michaelt on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @08:43AM
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Depends on what type of subscription business it is. I've heard meal kit companies like Hello Fresh lose 90% of their customers in less than 12 months, as the generous new customer discount vouchers tail off.
(Not that meal kit companies would be paying Apple 30%)
Re:Epic win: Jury decides Google has illegal monopoly in app...
by dcow on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @11:08AM
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Meal kit companies don’t pay the 30% because the payment is for a service that is delivered outside the app. Uber doesn't pay it either. It’s a stupid loophole apple built in that all but proves the 30% cut is ridiculous and would never work in the real world.
Re:Epic win: Jury decides Google has illegal monopoly in app...
by jzl on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @12:14PM
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Exactly. The whole argument about security and people needing a central payment system for things to be safe user friendly is patently ridiculous given that said approach is working just fine for all the “physical items” apps.
Re:Epic win: Jury decides Google has illegal monopoly in app...
by riversflow on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @11:35AM
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Curious what B2C business sectors take less than a 30% cut?
Re:Epic win: Jury decides Google has illegal monopoly in app...
by dangus on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @08:51AM
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It’s statistically insignificant because churn rates on subscription services are higher than you’d think.
A typical customer lifetime might be somewhere between a year and two years, unless you happen to be a giant like Netflix.
Let’s say you expect your customer to churn after 14 months, so that means you only enjoy 2 months of Apple’s reduced royalty rate. Your total average rate is 27%.
This concept is why many sunscription services are able to offer lifetime subscriptions. They have already figured out what one customer is worth based on churn rate, so the lifetime subscription is set up to be a price that matches or exceeds that number.