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Re:To revive Portland, officials seek to ban public drug use by huytersd on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @12:42AM (#38609938)
Solution is easy. If you’re visibly publicly intoxicated with hard drugs, you go to a special rehab that’s essentially prison without the violent criminals. If you’re already a violent criminal, you get put into a segregated area. You then get forcibly treated. If youv’e stayed clean for a set number of months, you get to leave. None of this shows up on any permanent/criminal record.
Re:To revive Portland, officials seek to ban public drug use by janalsncm on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @01:26AM (#38610243)
Agreed. I will add that we’ve come full circle on psychiatric hospitals, which is essentially what you’re describing in different words. Budget cuts and deinstitutionalization meant many of those were closed down 50 years ago.
Re:To revive Portland, officials seek to ban public drug use by xref on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @02:39AM (#38610760)
In no small part because psychiatric hospitals were wildly, wildly abused. Basically you could lock people up indefinitely with no conviction of anything because someone said they’re a danger to themselves/society/whatever. Basically used like an on-shore Guantanamo.
Re:To revive Portland, officials seek to ban public drug use by lupusreal on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @06:58AM (#38611081)
Simple solution; require convictions. The problem wasn't with locking up junkies, the problems was doing it without due process.

Create laws against public drug use, then enforce them.

Re:To revive Portland, officials seek to ban public drug use by huytersd on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @09:09AM (#38612244)
Set them up again but increase inspections and have maximum times you can keep a person there.
Re:To revive Portland, officials seek to ban public drug use by zztop44 on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @07:57AM (#38611556)
Christ, I’ve been visibly publicly intoxicated with hard drugs on a number of occasions (many years ago) while holding down a respectable middle class professional job (and being good at it!). If I’d been forced into months(!!) of rehab I’d have lost my job and had to move cities and/or change industries (it’s a small world and people talk).

And the scariest thing (for me personally) is that even if I knew that was a potential outcome, I don’t think it would have stopped me. And I wasn’t a junkie or hopeless addict by any means.

Re:To revive Portland, officials seek to ban public drug use by huytersd on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @09:50AM (#38612847)
You can probably make the same argument for someone with an alcohol DUI but we still deal with that issue severely. We need more of that here.