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Re:Epic vs. Google: Google Loses by lolinder on Monday December 11, 2023 @09:20PM (#38608483)
> Looks like Epic is getting almost everything they wanted from both Google and Apple, given that EU

It remains to be seen whether Apple will comply with EU rules outside of the EU. If not, Epic isn't getting their way, because EU revenue alone isn't going to be enough.

Re:Epic vs. Google: Google Loses by summerlight on Monday December 11, 2023 @10:04PM (#38608829)
Whenever DMA kicks in, I'm reasonably sure that there will be a number of state legislatures to follow this case, which will practically enforce Apple to open up the App store in the US.
Re:Epic vs. Google: Google Loses by MBCook on Monday December 11, 2023 @10:10PM (#38608882)
Why do you say that?
Re:Epic vs. Google: Google Loses by summerlight on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @12:58AM (#38610045)
CCPA came after GDPR. What makes you think this is an exception?
Re:Epic vs. Google: Google Loses by SllX on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @11:32AM (#38614418)
I’m not even clear on if under the DMA, Apple has to comply in a way that will enable Epic to make their own store. Depending on how they intend to comply, Epic might still get excluded since they terminated Epic’s developer program accounts and their business relationship in retaliation for the lawsuit Epic filed.

If Apple is still anywhere in the final process, its entirely possible other people can make their own storefronts but Epic will not.

Re:Epic vs. Google: Google Loses by summerlight on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @01:47PM (#38616505)
After DMA, Apple must allow app sideloading. They may decide not to host Epic Games Store in App Store, but I don't think they will be allowed to block them from running their own store with sideloading.

Of course, Apple can try to circumvent but that's a blatant violation of DMA and there will be serious retaliation. EU already has given a warning[1]. Perhaps it's good to remind that Apple could've been in a better position with all the USB-C situation if they didn't insult EU congressman with laughter[2]... I don't think Tim's going to repeat the same mistake.

[1] https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-eus-vestager-wa... [2] https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/apple-adopting-usb-c-po...