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Re:Epic vs. Google: Google Loses by gjsman-1000 on Monday December 11, 2023 @08:25PM (#38608033)
> Lock down your platform tight as a drum and you may employ all manners of anticompetitive practices because you legally forbid the existence of competitors and you're "curating your experience"

That's what a video game console is, technically speaking. It's a completely locked down environment which is curated tightly.

> but open yourself up to any competition and your behavior becomes anticompetitive.

That's called the antitrust investigation into Microsoft Windows; or the complaints about Apple's "sherlocking."

Edit: I'm actually OK with this, even legally, because I view devices as being means to an end for an experience, which is also how I think most consumers view devices. When viewed that way, we really have three major "buckets" of devices if you will: "Computers", "Gaming", "Phones".

The "Computers" market is a race in most minds between Windows and Mac (and thus Windows gets hit with antitrust investigations). The "Phones" market is once again a 2-cart race between Android and iPhone (and this time, Android gets the antitrust investigations). The "Games" market is a 4-cart race between 3 console manufacturers and the PC, with 2 additional smaller carts called Cloud Gaming and the Smartphone (which, themselves have 3 and 2 carts respectively) - thus, no interest in investigating anyone there. However, if gaming didn't exist on the PC and was strictly Sony v. Nintendo, it would totally be investigated.

Re:Epic vs. Google: Google Loses by slimsag on Monday December 11, 2023 @08:58PM (#38608317)
If Microsoft discontinues Windows and stops partnering with all personal PC manufacturers to produce computers/laptops... while simultaneously pushing the xbox as 'more than a gaming console', introducing 'portable xbox' like laptops, etc. but keeps them otherwise extremely restricted... what happens? no antitrust?
Re:Epic vs. Google: Google Loses by StressedDev on Monday December 11, 2023 @10:44PM (#38609151)
They are never going to do this.
Re:Epic vs. Google: Google Loses by slimsag on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @12:12AM (#38609784)
Doesn't matter, I ask because the industry will (and is actively) trending towards this. It won't be Microsoft, it'll be whoever replaces Microsoft in the long term. My question remains: what will happen in that case and what do we want to happen?
Re:Epic vs. Google: Google Loses by Spivak on Monday December 11, 2023 @08:31PM (#38608090)
> or the complaints about Apple's "sherlocking."

And they get away with it because Apple isn't competing with anyone within their own ecosystem; it's not a market.

Really is a neat little bit of lawyering, iOS and all apps within aren't competing with each other hence the rule about too many apps with similar features, they're competing as a unit with other computing platforms.