Re:To revive Portland, officials seek to ban public drug use
by plandis on Monday December 11, 2023 @07:38PM
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I really doubt homeless people are good pet owners. Food scarcity, lack of medical care for your pets, etc, etc…
Re:To revive Portland, officials seek to ban public drug use
by recursive on Monday December 11, 2023 @08:34PM
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What does that have to do with anything? Being a bad pet owner doesn't make you a non-pet-owner.
Re:To revive Portland, officials seek to ban public drug use
by stcroixx on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @02:55PM
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Not always, but it certainly can. Many animal control departments consider leaving a dog outside 24/7 to be neglect/cruelty and will take that dog from you.
Re:To revive Portland, officials seek to ban public drug use
by recursive on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @07:02PM
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Funny that our standards for animal safety are higher than those for humans.
Re:To revive Portland, officials seek to ban public drug use
by stcroixx on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @09:05AM
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We only have a standard for animals because humans are deemed their stewards. US citizens are their own stewards and most would cry foul if there was some standard that governed what weather they were allowed to go out in and/or for how long.
Re:To revive Portland, officials seek to ban public drug use
by shiroiuma on Monday December 11, 2023 @09:22PM
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Pets don't really need medical care per se. There's a huge glut of unwanted dogs, so is it better to euthanize so many unwanted dogs right away, or would it be better to just allow some of them to live on the street with homeless people, and then be euthanized when they have medical problems (which usually takes years: pets are typically fairly healthy until they get older unless they get injured, much like humans)?
Re:To revive Portland, officials seek to ban public drug use
by AndrewKemendo on Monday December 11, 2023 @11:29PM
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Maybe instead of guess, go spend some time with people in transition or otherwise sleeping rough. You’ll probably learn a lot
Re:To revive Portland, officials seek to ban public drug use
by etchalon on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @01:50AM
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They'll often, if not always, prioritize their animals over themselves. They're no different from housed pet owners in that way.
Re:To revive Portland, officials seek to ban public drug use
by VintageCool on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @02:12AM
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24/7 companionship, with owners that don't leave all day for work...
Re:To revive Portland, officials seek to ban public drug use
by qingcharles on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @11:08AM
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I don't say this often, but you are absolutely wrong about this.
Re:To revive Portland, officials seek to ban public drug use
by rrrrrrrrrrrryan on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @11:57AM
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Yeah, no. Dogs owned by homeless people are literally the happiest dogs around: they get to spend all their time outside, by their owner's side. They have a clear purpose as a companion, and are cared for deeply.
It's the dogs that get left alone inside an apartment for 9 hours a day that are unhappy and neglected.
Re:To revive Portland, officials seek to ban public drug use
by neilyio on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @01:49PM
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This is obviously a baseless and naive comment, and I'm glad others have stepped in to call it out. This whole thread is filled with noise like this.
The fact that there are so many strong opinions from people who demonstrate an embarrassingly low understanding of the situation is one of the reasons the problem is so hard to solve in the first place.
I guess it depends on how we define viable. In my experience working with the homeless, there are a lot of valid reasons shelters are avoided; they can be more dangerous, don't allow pets (who are sometimes the only companions they have), and don't allow families or couples. Whether that is viable or not depends on how you use the word.