TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las Vegas

Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by fastaguy88 on Monday December 11, 2023 @05:46PM (#38606525)

There seems to be some confusion about precheck. Most people get precheck by doing “global entry”, which dramatically shortens the time required for US citizens to re-enter the US. Pre-check is a side benefit of global entry. Global entry pre-dates precheck.

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by CubsFan1060 on Monday December 11, 2023 @07:32PM (#38607535)

Out of curiosity do you have stats on that? Until recently 100% of the people I knew with precheck don’t have global entry. Right now global entry interviews can be over a year out.

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by acmiyaguchi on Monday December 11, 2023 @08:25PM (#38608026)

Getting an interview for global entry is actually pretty easy, you can just do it on the return leg of international travel with no appointment needed.

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by hiatus on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @07:55AM (#38611537)

Can you elaborate on this process?

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by easton on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @09:38AM (#38612677)

https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-traveler-programs/global-...

When you enter customs upon re-entry to the US there's a sign for a place where they'll do your interview real quick before letting you go. The downside (IIRC) is that you don't get your number for precheck either until you do this, so if you only do international travel 1-2 times per year you might want to find an interview time.

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by bhpm on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @09:50AM (#38612858)

When I’m on my way back from an international location the last thing I want to do is sit in a TSA office and answer questions about my identity.

But, then again, I lucked out - TSA came to my work and did interviews there. Kind of weird but it got me in with little hassle.

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by Anechoic on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @12:31PM (#38615391)

When I’m on my way back from an international location the last thing I want to do is sit in a TSA office and answer questions about my identit

Well you're in luck - it's not TSA that interviews you, it's CPB!

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by lyrrad on Monday December 11, 2023 @10:52PM (#38609208)

Seems to be roughly even, with somewhat more TSA PreCheck-only members than Global Entry members (including NEXUS and SENTRI).

As of March 2023, TSA said [1]: "TSA PreCheck® application program has surpassed 15 million active members" and "Thirty-two million travelers now benefit from TSA PreCheck expedited screening after being vetted though TSA PreCheck ®, U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s Global Entry or another federal vetting program."

As of September 2023, CBP announced stated that there were over 12 million Global Entry members in a press release. [2]

This appears to include SENTRI and NEXUS members, since as of July 2022 it was stated: [3] "There are over 7.6 million participants enrolled directly in Global Entry, and over 1.8 million members of NEXUS and SENTRI that also receive Global Entry benefits."

[1] https://www.tsa.gov/news/press/releases/2023/03/02/tsa-prech...

[2] https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/cbp-anno...

[3] https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/202...

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by jghn on Monday December 11, 2023 @07:32PM (#38607537)

"Most people get precheck by doing “global entry”"

Citation needed. At least in my anecdotal experience, very few people I know have Global Entry while very many people I know have Precheck

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by wrs on Monday December 11, 2023 @05:50PM (#38606584)

You can get PreCheck separately. I got PreCheck and Global Entry as a side benefit of Nexus. Which, btw, is the cheapest way to get them all.

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by kevinsundar on Monday December 11, 2023 @06:50PM (#38607119)

You have to travel to the the northern border to get Nexus right?

I got (Global Entry, Sentri, Precheck) since I live near the southern border.

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by ashconnor on Monday December 11, 2023 @07:05PM (#38607275)

Correct. The interview locations are all along the northern border.

Nexus also allows you to use Sentri lanes when crossing the Mexican border.

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by bobthepanda on Monday December 11, 2023 @06:53PM (#38607148)

Right, you need a place that has Canadian border agents as well.

Seatac airport used to have this, but I think that was stopped during COVID and never restarted.

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by jedberg on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @02:00AM (#38610460)

Seatac never had it. You actually had to go to Boeing field. That's where I got mine.

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by wrs on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @02:08PM (#38616813)

By the way, I forgot another side benefit of Nexus (and Sentri, I think): your Nexus card qualifies as a Real ID, so no need to upgrade your state ID when that requirement comes into effect for air travel.

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by scarface_74 on Monday December 11, 2023 @08:55PM (#38608296)

This is definitely not true. Most people do pre-check and not global entry. Most people care about traveling domestically much more than internationally and the process is longer for approval

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by abeyer on Monday December 11, 2023 @09:34PM (#38608597)

As others have pointed out, that's not really all that much more common. Another reason for it is I believe that Global Entry and Nexus both still have a blanket "no criminal convictions of any kind at any time" requirement... which rules out something like 25-30% of the US population. Precheck also has a criminal background check but it isn't immediately disqualifying in all cases.

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by aix1 on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @12:18AM (#38609811)

Wait, you're saying that 25-30% of the US population have a criminal conviction? That seems extremely high, no?

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by abeyer on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @02:55PM (#38617515)

Yeah, I think that was a general estimate I found some supporting research for a few years back when I looked into it a bit, and I've seen similar quoted elsewhere.

It's not easy to come up with an accurate number at all due to all the different state systems not being perfectly comparable, treating different things in different ways, and duplicating individuals who have convictions in more than one state. Even attempts to link them together have been incomplete and inaccurate.

I'm not particularly surprised at that level, though... it's going to include _lots_ of low-level things that are technically classified criminal even though they're often just a ticket: kids caught with beer at a party, speeding in areas that have a "20 over the limit" rule that automatically upgrades to a higher offense, failure to pay tickets that gets escalated to a court, etc...

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by fastaguy88 on Monday December 18, 2023 @10:42AM (#38683960)

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00490...) suggest that in 2017, 8% of the US adult population had a felony conviction, 24% of Black adults, and 33% of Black males. But for TSA Pre/Global entry, the relevant number is the number of fliers, where I suspect the felony rates are lower.

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by helmsb on Monday December 11, 2023 @09:15PM (#38608448)

You still have to go through security with PreCheck. It's usually faster and requires fewer steps that non-PreCheck passengers have to go through.

I used to fly up the East Coast and back every other week and I couldn't imagine doing it without it. Seeing the 1-hour standard line and instead making it through PreCheck in less than 5 minutes. I would totally use a self-service system.

When people get PreCheck the normal reaction is "That was easy, why doesn't everyone do that?" I joke that the real "test" when you sign up for PreCheck is can you successfully book the appointment and show up?

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by ojbyrne on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @12:59PM (#38631359)

I do PreCheck as well. Perhaps I could have phrased my comment better. Currently the only non-automated/non-self service part of it is the person checking your id and boarding pass.

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Re:TSA Introducing Self-Service Screening Technology in Las ... by crooked-v on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @12:01AM (#38609725)

PreCheck is basically just pre-9/11 security with a metal detector and not having to do all the nonsense like removing electronics from bags and taking your shoes off. It sounds like the goal here is to replicate that in an automatic way (though I'll bet there's actually a remote office somewhere doing all the bag screening).

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