News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Europe needs to escape providerism by hansvm on Monday December 11, 2023 @04:30PM (#38605774)
Anecdotally, not a single American I've talked to who was on the fence about moving to Europe was deterred by not knowing the native language well enough. Whether overly optimistic or not, the prospect of spending a few months learning well enough to barely get by and spending more time later to become more adept never amounted to even a footnote in the deciding factors.
Re:Europe needs to escape providerism by lordnacho on Monday December 11, 2023 @04:33PM (#38605814)
Sure, they convince themselves that everyone speaks English, which is generally true in the kinds of places that hire expats.

But plenty of them find it hard to fit in socially, and then leave later.

Re:Europe needs to escape providerism by trgn on Monday December 11, 2023 @04:43PM (#38605930)
Yeah, the language factor is hugely underrated.

I think it's less the money aspect, and more the fact that American society is more bland, uniform. It's easier to fit in. In Europe, unless it's a true international metro (amsterdam, london, brussels, ...), there's a huge cultural barrier. You just can't hitch into it as an adult. Your children will fit in, but not you.

Re:Europe needs to escape providerism by hansvm on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @02:10AM (#38610543)
That doesn't seem relevant to your original point. Is it supposed to be, or is this a separate thread of conversation?