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Re:Mechanical Watch by sricciardi on Monday December 11, 2023 @10:25AM (#38601426)
> These things are designed to be taken apart, and it shows. I'm hard-pressed to think of other modern day objects that are meant to do this.

A mechanical film camera (say, a Leica) is similar. They are also meant to be opened, cleaned up, lubed, etc...

Re:Mechanical Watch by j4yav on Monday December 11, 2023 @11:02AM (#38601733)
Espresso machines, as well, and vintage stereo equipment. I have really come to appreciate the zen of user-serviceable physical stuff.
Re:Mechanical Watch by ce4 on Monday December 11, 2023 @11:41AM (#38602110)
I can relate - i took repairing espresso machines as a hobby since the pandemic. The parts are not complex at all and even 60+ years old E61-machines can be serviced easily (apart from not so cool stuff like asbestos as boiler insulation, leaded solder for boiler + fittings and mercury pressure switches).

But even todays machines (depending on manufacturer and origin) are very serviceable. Especially italian made ones.

Re:Mechanical Watch by j4yav on Monday December 11, 2023 @12:29PM (#38602567)
For sure I have a La Pavoni and I can get parts lists, diagrams, and everything else I need to rebuild the whole thing if I needed to. https://www.lapavoni.com/en/technical-documentation
Re:Mechanical Watch by ce4 on Monday December 11, 2023 @03:35PM (#38605176)
Great espresso machine! Very pretty and takes almost no space + heats up promptly. I had a pre millenium "professional" model until last year (not my daily driver though).

I had a Dalla Corte mini as main machine but couldnt resist a great offer and upgraded to Ascaso Baby T recently :)

Re:Mechanical Watch by mianos on Monday December 11, 2023 @04:38PM (#38605874)
What surprises me about the Italian coffee machines is you can buy many of the parts at a local hardware store. They look home made. The Chinese ones seem to be 100% custom parts, maybe to account for price at scale.
Re:Mechanical Watch by solardev on Monday December 11, 2023 @08:40PM (#38608172)
During the pandemic, I tried to work on my Jura, a Swiss automatic espresso machine with an integrated hopper and grinder. Totally failed :(

It's a great machine (got it refurbed and it's lasted nearly a decade already), but not at all easy to take apart. It's a lot of electronics though.

I take it the manual ones are easier to service?

Re:Mechanical Watch by eggy on Monday December 11, 2023 @04:46PM (#38605975)
Lenovo vs. Apple notebooks. My ThinkPad T430u comes apart simply and you can remove subassemblies quite easily. I replaced the touchpad and battery on my daughters MacBook Pro and it was a nightmare.