Re:The pro-Israel information war
by lazyasciiart on Friday December 08, 2023 @11:04PM
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They did not complain the borders had changed - they gave you a definition that they are using. It sounds like there is a contradictory definition you would like them to use and you are being disingenuous in simply complaining about the one they use.
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Re:The pro-Israel information war
by selimthegrim on Saturday December 09, 2023 @01:00AM
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There was an ad hoc committee that changed the borders further, for example around Beersheba.
Re:The pro-Israel information war
by dotancohen on Sunday December 10, 2023 @05:48AM
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Though orthogonal to this discussion, I would like to know more. Do you have something I could read? I think that I am unaware of this committee or its results. Thank you.
Re:The pro-Israel information war
by selimthegrim on Sunday December 10, 2023 @08:16AM
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Re:The pro-Israel information war
by dotancohen on Saturday December 09, 2023 @07:36AM
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The 1947 UN resolution did not define borders for Palestine. The UN Partition plan defined borders for "A Jewish State" and "An Arab State". Palestine was the name for the geographic area, like "Rocky Mountains", it was not the name of a political entity at the time. Even Arab bodies that used the term, such as the All Palestine Governate, used the term as a geographic term.
Re:The pro-Israel information war
by lazyasciiart on Saturday December 09, 2023 @06:35PM
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This is a completely different argument than the one you used one comment above, where you accepted the statement that there were borders defined for Palestine in 1947 and said that the Arabs rejected that definition. Would you like to clarify exactly which facts you are going to be using?
Re:The pro-Israel information war
by dotancohen on Saturday December 09, 2023 @08:07PM
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Are you arguing just to argue? In 1947 the UN decided on borders for an Arab state - they did not name that state and at the time the term Palestine was not the name of any supposed rulers of that Arab state.
The point under discussion above is the fact that the Arabs rejected the borders of this proposed Arab state. So they started a war and the borders were changed. That's the risk they took and lost. It is disingenuous to claim that Israelis stole Arab land at this point - the Arabs tried to steal land and lost.
Re:The pro-Israel information war
by lazyasciiart on Sunday December 10, 2023 @11:41PM
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That was not the point under discussion at all. It was, quite specifically, “what do you mean when you say the borders of Palestine?”