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Re:The pro-Israel information war by markdown on Friday December 08, 2023 @10:54PM (#38578399)
> If Israel could remove Hamas without injuring any non-combatants I think they would.

Surely you jest. How is this attack supposed to remove Hamas? It seems designed to strengthen Hamas, just as Israel has been supporting Hamas since their formation.

The existence of Hamas prevents a united Palestinian people while simultaneously giving Israel the excuse to reject a 2-state solution. If Hamas didn't exist, Israel would have to create a Hamas from scratch.

Re:The pro-Israel information war by mupuff1234 on Friday December 08, 2023 @11:28PM (#38578581)
You seem to ignore the fact that Palestinians have rejected a 2-state solution and have elected hamas themselves.
Re:The pro-Israel information war by ConorSheehan1 on Saturday December 09, 2023 @02:37AM (#38579596)
You seem to ignore the fact that hamas was elected in 2006 and has indefinitely postponed elections since then. Given the demographics most Palestinians weren't even alive when hamas was elected.
Re:The pro-Israel information war by mupuff1234 on Saturday December 09, 2023 @06:48AM (#38581119)
That doesn't change the fact that it was elected in the first place, showing that at the time Gaza was not interested in peace.

My point is that Palestinians have their share of blame.

Re:The pro-Israel information war by Arn_Thor on Saturday December 09, 2023 @02:38AM (#38579598)
Remind me, when was the last time people in Gaza were given a chance to vote?
Re:The pro-Israel information war by mupuff1234 on Saturday December 09, 2023 @06:49AM (#38581127)
Don't see why that changes what I said.

Parent comment blamed everything on israel when clearly Palestinians have a fair share of blame - you can't deny that.

Re:The pro-Israel information war by VBprogrammer on Saturday December 09, 2023 @02:44AM (#38579641)
In a democratic election held before around half it's current population was born. Not that the results would likely be much different today.
Re:The pro-Israel information war by edanm on Saturday December 09, 2023 @03:26AM (#38579874)
> Surely you jest. How is this attack supposed to remove Hamas? It seems designed to strengthen Hamas, just as Israel has been supporting Hamas since their formation.

This attack is supposed to remove Hamas by killing them, or forcing them to surrender. There's a lot of legit criticism of what Israel is doing, but if you think it's designed to bolster Hamas, then you're really misunderstanding what's happening.

Re:The pro-Israel information war by markdown on Monday December 11, 2023 @05:27AM (#38599272)
That's the most absurd thing I've ever heard. How do you kill a political movement? After all this slaughter, there'll be thousands more terrorists willing to fight the occupying force that's killed their parents and children.
Re:The pro-Israel information war by edanm on Monday December 11, 2023 @05:51AM (#38599418)
Hamas isn't just a political movement. It's an organization with a group of members, with weapons caches, with plans, etc. They have people trained to invade Israel and kill civilians, have proven that they can do this, and have promised to do it again.

They can be stopped by arresting/killing the members. Why wouldn't it be possible? Similar groups have been stopped.