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Re:The pro-Israel information war by DonHopkins on Friday December 08, 2023 @05:04PM (#38575206)
>To my knowledge, most journalists and/or politicians aren't that ignorant.

Then you have not been paying attention. Add this fact to your knowledge: US Republicans really ARE that ignorant. They certainly have an agenda, but they are most certainly ignorant to have such an idiotic agenda, too.

House Declares Anti-Zionism Is Antisemitism, Dividing Democrats

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/05/world/middleeast/house-an...

>More than half of House Democrats declined to back the Republican-written resolution, as some argued that equating criticism of the state of Israel with hatred of the Jewish people went too far.

>House Democrats splintered on Tuesday over a resolution condemning the rise of antisemitism in the United States and around the world, with more than half of them declining to support a measure declaring that “anti-Zionism is antisemitism.”

>The resolution denouncing antisemitism, drafted by Republicans, passed by a vote of 311 to 14, drawing the support of all but one Republican. Ninety-two Democrats voted “present” — not taking a position for or against the measure — while 95 supported it.

>That reflected deep and growing divisions among Democrats between those who have offered unequivocal support for the Jewish state and its actions, and others — especially in the party’s progressive wing — who have been critical of Israel’s policies and its conduct in the war with Hamas.

>“Under this resolution, those who love Israel deeply but criticize some of its policy approaches could be considered anti-Zionist,” Representative Jerrold Nadler, Democrat of New York and the longest-serving Jewish member of the House, said in a floor speech before he voted “present.” “That could make every Democratic Jewish member of this body, because they all criticized the recent Israeli judicial reform package, de facto antisemites. Might that be the author’s intention?”

Re:The pro-Israel information war by thomastjeffery on Friday December 08, 2023 @08:22PM (#38577313)
Ignorance is relative.

Both of my senators are active Mormons. There is a deep connection between Zionism and Mormonism that I would rather not spend the time exploring here.

A significant part of the United States' support for Israel is founded on religious preference. Disagreement on that preference very neatly aligns to party lines.

Re:The pro-Israel information war by DonHopkins on Friday December 08, 2023 @08:48PM (#38577514)
Oh I am fully aware of the US Right Wing Accelerationist's eschatologically opportunistic attitude towards Jews, and how they so easily reconcile their support for the right-wing Israeli government with their support for Trump's anti-semitic words, beliefs, behavior, policies, advisors, supporters, friends, thanksgiving dinner guests, and all those "very fine people on both sides".

Eschatologically Opportunistic: Relates to the belief in using current events and people, in this case, Jews, to hasten the end times or Armageddon.

Utilitarian: Reflects the view of seeing Jews as a means to an end rather than as individuals with their own intrinsic value.

Instrumental: Suggests the idea of using Jews as tools to achieve a specific prophecy or outcome.

Prophetically Convenient: Indicates that their role in the prophecy makes them important, but not necessarily valued for who they are.

Selective Zeal: Reflects a passionate support for the role Jews play in their eschatological beliefs, but a disregard for their spiritual well-being.

Conditional Support: Implies that the support for Jews is based not on a genuine concern for them as a people, but on the role they are perceived to play in a prophetic scenario.

End-Times Focused: Shows an overwhelming concern with the apocalyptic narrative in which Jews are key players, rather than with their current real-world circumstances or spiritual fate.

Armageddon-Centric: Revolves around the belief in an impending cataclysmic event, with Jews playing a pivotal role in its onset.

Apocalyptic Utilization: The attitude of using Jews and their situation as a means to fulfill apocalyptic prophecies.

Soteriologically Indifferent: Indicates indifference to the salvation or spiritual fate of the Jewish people, focusing instead on their role in eschatological events.

Selective Interpretation: Adhering to certain aspects of an ideology or belief system while disregarding or rationalizing others that might be contradictory.

Ideological Compartmentalization: The ability to maintain conflicting beliefs or attitudes by separating them into distinct 'compartments' in one's mind.

Pragmatic Alliance: Forming alliances based on specific goals or interests, despite underlying ideological differences or conflicts.

Ends Justify the Means: A belief that the desired end result (such as a political or prophetic goal) can justify the means used to achieve it, even if those means conflict with other aspects of their beliefs or values.

Cognitive Dissonance: The mental discomfort experienced when holding two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values, which can lead to rationalizing or justifying these contradictions.

Instrumentalization of Israel for Non-Jewish Goals: If support for Israel is based solely on using the state or its policies as a means to achieve non-Jewish goals (such as hastening a religious prophecy), this could be seen as disregarding the actual well-being and rights of Jewish people. Such support can be problematic if it views Jews and Israel merely as tools for an agenda, rather than as a people with their own rights and interests.

Support Accompanied by Anti-Semitic Beliefs: If support for Israel coexists with anti-Semitic stereotypes, conspiracy theories, or rhetoric, this would be a case where the support might be considered problematic in terms of its relationship to anti-Semitism.