That is your interpretation. Doesn’t mean it is true. Jewish organizations have joined the large pro-Palestinian marches in Toronto for example. It was a protest against the war and occupation, not about the religion.

It’s like saying that Israel marches are islamophobic. Saying it doesn’t make it true.

And yes, sometimes it does happen that there are antisemitic people that join those groups. But if they aren’t the organizers and are quickly excluded, we shouldn’t dismiss the whole movement. Some of us do not agree with the scale of the operations against civilians in Gaza, that is a valid view point.

> And yes, sometimes it does happen that there are antisemitic people that join those groups. But if they aren’t the organizers and are quickly excluded

I don't think you can easily say "this person is an antisemite" or the opposite. It's obviously dependent on the group and it's rhetoric

When you have entire groups organizing and deploying hostile rhetoric, referring to Jewish people themselves as "colonizers", that's drifting towards antisemitism

When you have universities selectively employing double standards where they will fire faculty over e.g. praising Brett Kavanaugh (I can find several other examples if you like) but suddenly "care" about free speech when the topic is related to Jewish people, it's hard to rule out the question of antisemitism there. Especially considering some of these universities had antisemitic policies historically

You are not providing any counter-argument to my point.

Also, be careful what is meant by "occupation". You'll find that for some people it means that Israel is occupying and should be destroyed, as I mentioned previously.

@dang: I apologise, I tried to constructively contribute and, if you do read my comments carefully, not to take side too much or to be inflammatory.

I note that you allowed the thread to remain, which I have interpreted as we being allowed to comment...

The pro Israel side calls for the destruction of Palestine and genocide of it's people regularly.

https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1711865833121521939

Also https://twitter.com/theIMEU/status/1613971554412695553

You've broken the site guidelines badly in this thread. We're going to have to ban accounts that keep doing that, so please stop now.

Needless to say, this goes regardless of which side of the conflict people are supporting.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I apologise, I've tried to constructively contribute and, if you do read my comments carefully, not to take side too much (can't ignore reality, either, though, that's what a substantive discussion means). Certainly I believe my comments were more substantive than the replies I've received.

I note that you allowed this thread and others to remain, which I've interpreted as we being allowed to comment... and you obviously have to expect that it will be 'lively' on such a topic and hopefully moderation can remain neutral, which is not obvious here (and yes I think your comment is harsh and rather one-sided).

Posts like "QED. Nice weasel words, by the way" are clearly against the site guidelines. That's not a borderline call.

I took a look at your other comments in the thread and I don't see what I thought I saw before. But since you've edited them all, I'm not sure whether this changed after the fact or I misread somehow.