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Re:The wealth of the 25 richest families in the world soared... by akavi on Friday December 08, 2023 @01:01PM (#38572017)
> Wages are definitely up, but if you factor in all the price increases of rent and groceries, I don't see how anything is better for the poorest.

That's what inflation adjustment is for.

> The poorest people in the US saw faster inflation-adjusted wage growth than any other income bracket: https://www.epi.org/publication/swa-wages-2022/

Re:The wealth of the 25 richest families in the world soared... by fzeroracer on Friday December 08, 2023 @01:11PM (#38572144)
Well no, inflation-adjustment is inherently naïve. It assumes that everything rises at the same rate of inflation, which is obviously not true. Rent has surged far faster than inflation for example.
Re:The wealth of the 25 richest families in the world soared... by gottorf on Friday December 08, 2023 @01:23PM (#38572329)
> inflation-adjustment is inherently naïve. It assumes that everything rises at the same rate of inflation

It doesn't. "Real wages" are adjusted to changes in CPI. It makes no assertions that everything inflates at the same pace, any more than the overall CPI figure does the same.

If your wages went up 20%, and the CPI went up by 10% (composed of, say, a 40% rise in rent and some commensurate declines in other goods and services), your real wages went up by 10%. Of course, how that impacts actual individuals is different based on their circumstances.

Re:The wealth of the 25 richest families in the world soared... by mrguyorama on Friday December 08, 2023 @01:41PM (#38572569)
>and some commensurate declines in other goods and services

Pray tell, what has declined in price the past 5 years?

Re:The wealth of the 25 richest families in the world soared... by andrewmutz on Friday December 08, 2023 @02:06PM (#38572841)
Actually right now prices are falling on durable goods:

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/economy-inflation-deflation...

Re:The wealth of the 25 richest families in the world soared... by mrguyorama on Friday December 08, 2023 @05:41PM (#38575657)
>These items are products such as used cars, furniture and appliances, which saw big run-ups in prices during the pandemic.

So is this an actual reduction in price, or yet again just covid supply squeezes easing off? Does a 2.6% drop in price actually offset the price increases of the past 5 years?

Re:The wealth of the 25 richest families in the world soared... by gottorf on Friday December 08, 2023 @01:45PM (#38572633)
I'm sorry, that was poorly worded. What I was trying to say is that if the CPI is 10% and one component of it is 40%, it implies the presence of other components that are under 10% (and of course, the possibility of some that might have been negative).
Re:The wealth of the 25 richest families in the world soared... by VirusNewbie on Sunday December 10, 2023 @02:35PM (#38594216)
The problem is that CPI does not accurately reflect true inflation. If you chart wage growth to M2, you see it hasn't' kept up, and you also can see that assets have outpaced inflation quite a bit.