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Re:Stop Demanding Dumb Answers to Hard Questions by loeg on Thursday December 07, 2023 @09:45PM (#38564810)
> Discriminatory harassment may be considered to violate this policy when it is so severe or pervasive, and objectively offensive, that it creates a work, educational, or living environment that a reasonable person would consider intimidating, hostile, or abusive

In what contexts is (explicitly) calling for the genocide of Jews not objectively offensive or hostile? Maybe if you whisper it quietly in an empty room? I don't buy the examples provided in TFA (the ones he deems acceptable are not explicit calls for genocide).

Re:Stop Demanding Dumb Answers to Hard Questions by s1artibartfast on Thursday December 07, 2023 @10:26PM (#38565085)
The phrase "reasonable person" does the heavy lifting here. A reasonable person should be able to understand that others have different opinions that may be distasteful or wrong. Unless those opinions are violent and directed at them personally, they are not hostile.
Re:Stop Demanding Dumb Answers to Hard Questions by PeterStuer on Friday December 08, 2023 @02:32AM (#38566343)
So you are saying 'words are violence' was BS all along? Better tell that to those college campusses and their speech police squads. Bring back the reasonable people they ousted over the last two decades.
Re:Stop Demanding Dumb Answers to Hard Questions by s1artibartfast on Friday December 08, 2023 @09:56AM (#38569772)
Yes
Re:Stop Demanding Dumb Answers to Hard Questions by funcDropShadow on Friday December 08, 2023 @02:45AM (#38566406)
Calling for the genocide of Jews is context-dependent, but misgendering is always a hate crime?
Re:Stop Demanding Dumb Answers to Hard Questions by loeg on Friday December 08, 2023 @10:46AM (#38570372)
> Unless those opinions are violent and directed at them personally,

I mean, I think a statement advocating for the genocide of Jews is reflecting a violent opinion and is obviously personal for Jews!

Re:Stop Demanding Dumb Answers to Hard Questions by dmvdoug on Friday December 08, 2023 @02:45AM (#38566402)
The test isn’t simply if a statement is objectively offensive. You ignored that the harassment has to be severe and pervasive.
Re:Stop Demanding Dumb Answers to Hard Questions by loeg on Friday December 08, 2023 @10:47AM (#38570380)
Read the larger context (I quoted it above). It only has to be severe or pervasive enough to be "intimidating, hostile, or abusive."