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Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by carlosjobim on Thursday December 07, 2023 @06:02PM (#38563000)
Come on, that playbook is ancient by now. Deny facts and call people liars, then when irrefutable evidence is shown say "Oh, but it's a good thing!". I just stated the truth, and if you think it's fine or even great that this happens, then sure. But why deny that it happens then? Why is that still in the playbook? If people think it's great, then say so. We're in the information age, anybody can look up stuff easily.
Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by jacquesm on Thursday December 07, 2023 @06:24PM (#38563201)
I don't know why you keep digging, but it is getting a bit tedious. You've had multiple people correct you, you persist in your rabid anti-union posts and purposefully mis-interpret the available evidence. I'm not sure why you do this but I guess you're welcome to it.
Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by carlosjobim on Thursday December 07, 2023 @07:21PM (#38563776)
How about this: I apologize for confusing you with the other poster. And I ask you to apologize for calling me rabid.

Nobody has corrected me, it is a fact that some large employers in Sweden will sign you up to a union without your consent.

I should know, because it happened to me. Decades ago the company I was working for was sold to Sweden. One day I received a bill for a home insurance from a Swedish insurance company. I didn't own a home. Called the insurance company to ask what it was about. They apologized and said a Swedish union had signed me up with them. Called that union and they said yes now you're a member. Told them I didn't want to be a member. They told me I can't exit the union, my new employer had signed me up as a member, talk to them. I called HR and said that I'm not going to be a member of any union. They told me that it wasn't optional and I had to be a union member. I told them I'll get my lawyer if that's the case, and they relented and asked me to hand in a signed statement that I didn't wish to be a union member. And that was the end of it.

Then hackers here say that these things don't happen, even though the union clearly states on their webpage that this is standard procedure. And if it did happen, then it's a good thing. It is a bit funny, and dumb at the same time.

How would you feel if your company was sold to Utah. Then without you knowing, your new boss signs you up as a paying member of the Mormon church, and then the Mormon church signs you up for home insurance? It's kind of the same thing. The union - or the church - might be wonderful, but I'm not going to allow anybody to sign any contract in my name without my permission. That's fucked up.

Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by jacquesm on Thursday December 07, 2023 @09:00PM (#38564492)
You can spend wall after wall of text but 'Decades ago' invalidates your whole thesis.
Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by carlosjobim on Thursday December 07, 2023 @11:29PM (#38565468)
No it doesn't, the practice is still exactly the same – as clearly stated on the union website in the article published in 2022. You're not even fooling yourself.
Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by jacquesm on Friday December 08, 2023 @12:55AM (#38565874)