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Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by masklinn on Thursday December 07, 2023 @11:32AM (#38558374)
> If union membership is really the way of life in Sweden, is there anything preventing the government from a legislative solution? Just mandate collective agreements?

The entire point of the german / Nordic union model is that by avoiding legislative action they can be more nimble and reactive to changes. Companies and unions don’t want legislation, and the governments are perfectly happy to let them handle things like adults.

That however only works when everyone plays ball.

Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by eddtries on Thursday December 07, 2023 @11:34AM (#38558399)
> plays ball

Which is the case for 99% of companies. It’s only American ones internationally expanding who don’t realise other economies operate differently that get stung with this.

Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by wil421 on Thursday December 07, 2023 @12:14PM (#38558987)
Why does everyone complain like it is an American issue? It’s an Elon issue, he hates unions and does it very publicly.

For decades, Ford and others have factories in Europe and have union members.

Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by eddtries on Thursday December 07, 2023 @12:40PM (#38559329)
Because the previous examples of companies trying to avoid collective agreements have been American (notably Toys'R'Us and McDonalds)
Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by masklinn on Thursday December 07, 2023 @01:02PM (#38559570)
Didn't Amazon and Walmart also try it out in Germany?
Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by masklinn on Thursday December 07, 2023 @01:11PM (#38559678)
> Why does everyone complain like it is an American issue?

Because it largely is.

> For decades, Ford and others have factories in Europe and have union members.

These were handled very differently.

For the most part those were independent subsidiaries, under the same brand but playing with their own set of rules.

They commonly had different lineups entirely, for instance the Ford Focus was created in cooperation by the british (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_of_Britain) and German (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Germany) teams of Ford of Europe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_of_Europe), and while the Focus was designed as an international car, it is the direct descendent of Ford of Europe's first passenger car the Escort (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Escort_(Europe)), which itself directly descends from Ford of Britain's Anglia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Anglia).

Re:Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and ... by turquoisevar on Thursday December 07, 2023 @10:30PM (#38565106)
Not sure what the difference in products has to do with how the company is governed. Ford of Europe is a direct subsidiary of Ford Motor Company, and they both have the same CEO and Executive Chairman.

It’s hardly a shock to most in Europe that many American corporations (whether by virtue of a subsidiary or not) attempt to bring their American sensibilities to the European labor market.