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Re:He blew the whistle on Amazon. He's still paying the price by throw4847285 on Thursday December 07, 2023 @11:31AM (#38558368)
> Hamas definitely started this particular fist-fight.

Do you often punch more than 6000 children to death when you have a fist-fight?

I'm being glib, but only in response to your glibness. You're using the classic argument: "It's complicated, and nobody is totally ethical, so I would suggest not taking any action. Ultimately, this benefits my side, but I'm trying to obscure the fact that I'm taking sides so I have the illusion of objectivity."

If you actually cared about human life over choosing sides, you would not be talking about "who started it." You would be talking about how we can end it.

Re:He blew the whistle on Amazon. He's still paying the price by s1artibartfast on Thursday December 07, 2023 @09:48PM (#38564831)
Do you have any ideas on how to end it? Neither party has been willing to make an agreement to move on in the last 80 years.
Re:He blew the whistle on Amazon. He's still paying the price by throw4847285 on Friday December 08, 2023 @10:09AM (#38569920)
Nope! I think a lot more innocent people are going to die (both Israelis and Palestinians) and I can't see an end in sight. When the violence does flair up, however, America could use it's massive global influence to try and stop it rather than give more weapons to the Israel without the standard preconditions that weapons sales usually entail.

This time, in fact, it's clearer than ever that American citizens have the capacity to make a change. Biden started out as rah rah for Israel and has faced a revolt within his administration from people who have had enough, as well as sustained protests from the outside.

Re:He blew the whistle on Amazon. He's still paying the price by s1artibartfast on Friday December 08, 2023 @01:35PM (#38572489)
yeah, Im pretty isolationist on the topic. There is no good guy so the best we can do is advocate for an unlikely peace and not get dragged down in the mud. I dont think Israel needs more money and weapons - they already have overwhelming superiority.