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Re:Unveiling secrets of the ESP32: creating an open-source M... by mardifoufs on Thursday December 07, 2023 @12:34AM (#38553212)
How are the two not equivalent? If anything, for anyone living in the west it's probably less of an issue to have China spy on them than a western government. Sure, at a state security level it's not but for regular individuals I sure would rather have China spy on me since they can't do anything to me directly.
Re:Unveiling secrets of the ESP32: creating an open-source M... by lannisterstark on Thursday December 07, 2023 @02:50AM (#38553945)
You have at least some civil rights in those countries, you don't in China. Be careful of a layover.
Re:Unveiling secrets of the ESP32: creating an open-source M... by mardifoufs on Thursday December 07, 2023 @03:43AM (#38554248)
I mean, sure yeah don't go to China. That's a pretty solid advice. But again, that's irrelevant for the average western user. Even with civil rights, the potential to get hurt by a western government while living in the west is orders of magnitude more probable than getting anything from the CCP or China. But yeah don't do layovers in China if you are a dissident, though I don't think that's an especially common scenario
Re:Unveiling secrets of the ESP32: creating an open-source M... by 2Gkashmiri on Thursday December 07, 2023 @07:15AM (#38555533)
civil rights.... haha

i live under a literal tyrant right now in india. does it really matter if i have "Civil rights" and china and usa and india is snooping on me?

https://www.onmanorama.com/news/kerala/2023/12/02/kollam-chi...

here. this is literally fresh off the oven.

26000 people's internet history was looked with a fine tooth comb in order to find that one IP which had viewed tom and jerry on youtube. youtube wouldnt give information but ISPs are by law or otherwise willing to "help" the police because its a "my way or highway" rule with the government.

so my point is, did i consent to this snooping? i am "supposed" to have laws but "think of the children". next time it is political opponents or dissidents as has been the case.

this isn't just in india or china or usa but everywhere.

Re:Unveiling secrets of the ESP32: creating an open-source M... by trallnag on Thursday December 07, 2023 @07:51AM (#38555763)
The person was talking about "the West" vs China. India is not part of "the West".
Re:Unveiling secrets of the ESP32: creating an open-source M... by lannisterstark on Saturday December 09, 2023 @05:16PM (#38586652)
>i live under a literal tyrant right now in india.

>civil rights.... haha

I wasn't even talking about you lmao.

Re:Unveiling secrets of the ESP32: creating an open-source M... by sofixa on Thursday December 07, 2023 @08:58AM (#38556333)
> You have at least some civil rights in those countries

I'm sure the lads that spent decades in Guantanamo with no charges brought against them after being kidnapped based on their watch model will be very glad to hear they have civil rights.