Re:Unveiling secrets of the ESP32: creating an open-source M...
by redfast00 on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @05:38PM
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As part of the NLNet grant, I will build an affordable Faraday cage; I'll post the BOM, assembly process and a test report in a separate blog post.
Re:Unveiling secrets of the ESP32: creating an open-source M...
by reachableceo on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @06:43PM
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I am researching that at this time as well. I have VNA etc and am keen to collaborate !
I have quite a collection of research material on RF cages / testing .
Re:Unveiling secrets of the ESP32: creating an open-source M...
by pietervdvn on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @06:50PM
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There is an email address at the bottom of the blog post, you can send directly there.
Re:Unveiling secrets of the ESP32: creating an open-source M...
by PeterisP on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @07:10PM
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We needed a large highly isolating cage for a project and the cost-effective (but still costly) way to do that was to build our own, having local welders make a custom steel box and lining it up with rf anechoic pyramid foam, otherwise the reflections make weird RF noise. A tricky part is the seams where your doors meet the box. It's easier to get good isolation from outside if you don't have to connect any wires, i.e. if any "control" you need is done by a battery-powered computer (laptop or smartphone) inside the isolation.
Re:Unveiling secrets of the ESP32: creating an open-source M...
by jcalvinowens on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @05:55PM
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Based only on my own anecdotal experience... I think the hole the cables go through is the biggest problem in OPs setup. I'd solder the shields to the cage circumferentially around the hole. Shielded USB cables aren't too hard to find, it wouldn't be as good as something optical but it's a lot easier.
Re:Unveiling secrets of the ESP32: creating an open-source M...
by 127361 on Thursday December 07, 2023 @11:24AM
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Feed through capacitors for power and use fiber for the rest?
Re:Unveiling secrets of the ESP32: creating an open-source M...
by jcalvinowens on Thursday December 07, 2023 @02:03PM
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If power was really the problem I'd just use a battery inside the cage.
Related, this is a neat experiment which powers a galvanically isolated circuit optically using LEDs and a solar cell: https://youtu.be/9JinSfCKuNQ?t=823&si=kBwesUsVgAGBVVwq
He didn't need to block RF though, the interface seems mechanically challenging to build into a cage.
Re:Unveiling secrets of the ESP32: creating an open-source M...
by atVelocet on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @06:44PM
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I used the isolation „fabric“ wrapped around the extension cable off a super cheap PCIe riser card. I put an iPhone inside which blocked WiFi, BT and 4G.
Re:Unveiling secrets of the ESP32: creating an open-source M...
by genter on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @09:19PM
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Not directly answering your question, but on preventing emission in the first place (and the best video I've ever seen on electrical engineering): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySuUZEjARPY
Re:Unveiling secrets of the ESP32: creating an open-source M...
by ale42 on Thursday December 07, 2023 @04:14AM
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Lots of very useful information here, thanks for the link! Actually there's some answer: as someone else already wrote in this thread, shields of cables must be soldered to the Faraday cage to prevent leakage.
Anyone have a recommendation on conducting fabric for RF isolation as briefly mentioned in the article or resources on the subject of rf isolation/Faraday cages for microcontrollers?